I picked this TROY-BILT leaf blower out of the trash a while ago and now that spring is here wanted to see if it had any more life to it. lets see why it was thrown out and if we can save it.

Hey guys how's it going. I picked up this trashpix troy built four-stroke leaf blower and it is in some dire need of some love. It looks pretty complete. I don't see anything actually missing on it.

All the wand is right there. The pad is tie wrapped onto it, looks like all the straps are on it, but it has an issue. I don't know if we can save it or not, but we'll either figure out what happened to it or possibly save it and get you popped into stand. Let's get into it so here's the problem got a very.

It was locked up, but it sounds like it's blowing up. Let's go! Take a look inside see what happened. Let's go buzz this cover off and get it out of our way. My guess is that, through rod of has that feel to it so yeah that doesn't sound good, let's get the plug out of it.

There's also a slight chance there's something on the fan side of it. That's locking up too, but kind of seems like it's in the in the engine be nice. If just too long of a spark plug was in it was hitting a piston right. Wait a minute wait a minute.

The plug gap is totally flattened out. Something did hit the top of the spark plug. Let's go see if it spins over now yeah. I think we could see something down inside the plug hole, though go get a light and thick beak inside yeah there's a chunk of something i don't know.

If you guys could see it at about five o'clock, that's a chunk of. I don't know what that is, we're going to find out, my guess, probably maybe part of the valve yeah. You can see the piston moving up and down inside there, so they didn't throw a rod but through something. Let's get a little valve cover off of there to drop the valve.

When you take the rocker off of it, it should pop right up and not have any valve clearance. Let's see if this one, this one's got clearance in it. This one doesn't, but it might be under compression, and this one has clearance. If you get any compression, it's really, it's really no compression to speak of something is in there.

I'm gon na go probe it. Let's go get a little pick and we'll pick away on that right. There. Let's go move it up to the bench a little bit better lighting over here.

Let's see, if, hopefully it's going to fit in there huh that's close see if a magnet will grab us anything chunks of anything. Possibly it's whatever is in. There, too, is just embedded right to the top of the piston, but i could see something right like right: there, oh baby valves, huh. I don't feel anything now.

It's hitting again right there, it's right at top dead center too. Let me go see if i can make a sweep and see if i can get it to go away. Actually, what is that right right there? I just got something: that's a hunk of metal out of something and that's not supposed to be in. Is it aluminum or steel? It is aluminum, it's a chunk of aluminum.

I would have thought it would have been like valve components. It could be that, like the pistons breaking apart, though that's why the magnet didn't get it neither well. I say these are shifting giggles. Let me just take the rest of the way apart and see what happened.
I'm curious, the problem with this is, i don't think the cylinder head comes off. I think you have to remove it from here and all the components kind of stay together. Uh, do we have to take the fan off? I don't think so. I think we can get away with getting the exhaust and the carburetor away from it and it's got four screws on and we might be able to pull the jug off the top of it and kind of go from there.

I figure we'll attack it with power tools. So what's your guess, what do you think it is i'm gon na? My guess is on the top of the piston, where the ring is probably down. I don't know, maybe an eighth of an inch. I think the top lip of the piston kind of broke away.

It's just my guess, because it's aluminum what else! Well, it doesn't allow us to see too much more carbs a little. I we may have to take that fan off too there's a the coil and stuff is on the back of it, which the screws are coming through that side, so we may have to tear the whole thing down. That's all right! I'm up for an exploration, i'm gon na clear the counter off with the hose no air cleaner. That's probably not a good help on a leaf blower.

Okay, i'm a snow blower, but that's not a good sign, sucking in all that dirt would surely do with damage and, judging by the tie, wrap repair that was up done up top. I don't think this machine saw very much love i'll, try to let that just hang like that. Can we get this whole cardboard thing out of here all right. We have to get i'll show you here.

You can see the the coils bolted in from that direction and we have to get access to that hardware, and this head's gon na have to go to slide off, and it's not gon na happen with that coil running into this stuff. I don't think anyway, right uh yeah, i'm gon na go cut. A bunch of this tie, wrap crap off, get it out of her way. Thing was made.

It's not very old. I'd call that a 2015 mile this is 2022. So, who knows how long it was thrown away but or last run, i should say, but that's only seven years from now, yes cut off this nonsense - that one's not even connected anything laughing all right, let's go so. It looks like the steel broke off of there and there, and they just tie wrapped it back on, let's buzz them out of the way we'll get this whole netting out of the way i already disconnected the tube.

The wires are still hooked up, but that was kind of clearing the bench off as we were moving around. So it's getting smaller, that's what she said all right. Let's get it looks like we have to split. That's not going to help us any looks like we got to split the blower all the way around with all those screws.

Let's go swap over to that other one. Is that right, yeah i got it there. You go more stuff out of our way. I don't see that the beam didn't look like it was hitting anything so, but that's not good, so we need to get the fan out looks like we got four screws kind of the same.
I don't know if it'll clear it, i'm gon na find out right now, there's a bolt in the center too, so we might be able to remove that. But let's go see if because we still have to get this housing off of that and how was that held on there's gon na, be nothing left by the time we're done with this. Let me get you look at where we're looking uh. Can we get rid of this gas tank and carb? I think we just did yeah.

Let's make a little elbow room here all right, so we got looks like these four, no, those two that's kind of goofy that one right there. I hope it's not. You have to split the engine and get to that one that would be kind of weird. Wouldn't it right there can't reach i'm too stubby.

It's like we're doing those by hand if they pop loose yeah. I don't know it's down fairly deep, too. You know it's. That's how far we have to go.

We're kind of. I don't know, because that's the shoulder that's hitting it almost wants to go. Let me go see if i can find something better. I do believe it has loctite on it, because i decided to just man up and hit with my purse.

I think that one just slipped, oh boy, you ever get the feeling there's no u-serviceable parts in there. I might have to whittle down one of these on a grinder, so it'll fit down in the hole except by the puddle on the bench you're starting to piss out oil. So while i'm flipping it around she's doing our thing, let's get to whatever is left of the oil out of it kind of take out a urine sample. Let's see what it looks like at least there's oil in it again.

It doesn't hold very much but definitely looks like it's factory, yeah yeah, it's not down, got a little bit of ring rainbow colors in it too of the metal. So something was chewing itself apart. All right as we were, we need to get something set up to get those screws out. I might do it, she fit where's the hole one of them i got out.

Didn't i not that one freedom, i think anything else is holding on. We've got some wires right there. Let me go get a pair of little nippers and we can squeeze them together. Push it back through all right, that's out of our way getting closer.

Now we should be able to get the back side of this thing. What do we need to get this out of here? Let's take that coil right off now with that one, you know it could be self-explanatory. The way the wires went because they could only go one way. That's just gon na be a kill switch across those two anyway, all right.

Let's i like to get this cardboard thing everywhere. If we can, we got a throttle. Cable! That's just stuck in there come on! Oh, come out. Nope, that's probably got like a a clip or a pinch.

You got ta hit too many right down. The bar they're definitely made for the ease of putting together not taking apart. You know, damaging it. Yeah, that's just damaging it's uncurling the can we spin it out of there.
Will that work? Pardon me, while i remove that it looks like we take those three screws out this whole plastic piece. It's got to come off anyway, so let's get rid of that and that could all stay right where it is hopefully i'll strip. It out now make sure we're using the right one. It is i like using the impact, because the impact gives it that shot for when the stuff is loctited together, see the loctite on it.

That's already stripped out, so we're gon na have to go with some other kind of apparatus on that one. It also is a regular screwdriver tip. We're gon na have to get one that fits in there quite good and get that out of there. That's gon na have to come off to pretty much lift the head off anyway, i'll get it i'll get it.

I have to drill it i'll, get it next size up. I think we'll leave that together to put it back in and should get that out of the way for us look at the size of the intake puny. All right we need to could probably take them off or we just left the head off with them. Let's see if we can get again, it's gon na be a problem.

Definitely have to add to my shopping list a uh because they're, probably gon na be loctited too oh yeah, i'm not gon na be able to get the bit in there. You know. So, what's your thoughts, did you write down what it was? What you thought it was, i'm still seeing the top of the piston destructed itself, or it didn't have an air filter in it too, so it could have drawn something in that caused it to get chomped up. Wonder if these are the same engines seems a little bigger, though, that the weed whackers use they they make a four-stroke weed whacker too, and i have a couple of those i think laying around that worst case.

We can kind of steal parts from it, but i think the piston's smaller on those - maybe not, i think, we're getting ahead of ourselves, though huh very well giving your hands a workout and loctite stuff. Somebody can put heat on certain loctites respond differently, something you can put some heat on it and it releases. I wouldn't think this would be the case, because this has a lot of heat. Okay got ta, put it in a vise and give her all.

I got putting that bit in there. I don't think we're gon na have enough room yeah, that's a problem! So i'm such an angle that if i go to do anything with that, it's just gon na rip out. So let's go give her now that it's not wanting to wiggle around on me here we go so one more okay, you got to make the sound effects when you're doing stuff, like that it helps it does kinda like when you hit your finger with a hammer And you swear makes you feel better all right. Let's go back you up a little bit i'll pop this cylinder head off, okay last chance to write down what you think it is all right going in ha.
I was right. It looks like uh, it's even getting more interesting like what would you say so i was right about the top of the piston and the ring breaking loose there. It is now allow me to go over top dead center. Look a little weird, though i don't know.

If it's supposed to be missing that much of the skirt on that side, there goes that just fell off yeah, it's missing the whole half of the piston, the rod's all hammered too. I mean the um, the wristband keeper, because not there's not even anything, holding the ring. The bottom ring that oil ring just floating. It looks like yeah, that's not even holding the ring on there.

Well, there's your problem. I think all the junk went down inside the crankcase too. You know all the rest of the rest of that must be down inside there. Man, i think must've made a ton of noise, but why did it do what it did? We had oil in it and the oil was dirty, never know it could have been run low on oil.

Here's the bits, hmm get a rag and wipe some of that off. Let's go rinse this and break clean. What that top? Bearing is the top, bearing feels good, i don't know if it has anything that holds it in place. A little cap on the end of that just came out.

We just push that right out of there. I think it'd be retained by something right. I do see a pin, it looks like a pin right there. There it goes it just has like little.

I think that's rubber might be little caps on the end of it. Yeah now they're just little bosses. I thought there was something that probably located it. Let's go: take it we'll get the pan, we'll shake it upside down to make guts come out of it.

Let's spin, it first see what how the rest of it feels. Camshafts are working. These are the two rockers for the intake and exhaust valve. Hmm, the rod doesn't feel bad all right.

Let's uh yeah shake the guts out of this you'll be finding little bits that can come out of the bottom. Think we'll get anything i would think so get muck there. You go nope. That was the rockers false alarm that was them falling off there.

All those parts had to go somewhere right and you would think that you know being a four stroke. It doesn't exchange the pulse from the bottom of the engine. Two strokes use the bottom of the crankcase for the air fuel charge and four strokes just use the top. So you would think anything above the surface.

You can see going up into the combustion chamber and going out the exhaust, but all these pieces - it's not going to get past the rings and over to the top of it. So i think it has to be in there somewhere something just made noise something right. There there's a chunk of here's a chunk of wall more than that, though we could split it. You know what i want to do real, quick though, what's that, what do we got there hold on? That's supposed to be like that? Ah, that's the uh expander.
That goes under probably the oil ring or it's the oil ring itself. That's the expander that goes behind the ring or in between. So that went right there, like that in between the two halves of the oil ring, there should be two pieces here. Let's see it's funny yeah, so that was stacked like that, and it keeps the two of them separate from each other.

All right, let's go. Hopefully i have those here too, the little uh, four stroker weed, whacker jobs and we'll bring them down real, quick, we'll see. If that piston is roughly the same size and maybe steal parts and try to make one of these, if not then we'll just split the case and see what we got, this is one of the crappy ones that was up there. I have a feeling it's going to be a smaller step, of course, the let's get it oriented correctly.

So what will look like something like well? This only has an output on one side, so it would be like that without this, so the crankcase is totally different. This one's split on a 45, this one splits down the center of it about the cylinder head. Does that look anything like what we got? It looks smaller right. That valve cover does not look like it's the same size.

Let's go pop that valve cover off real quick. Actually, it would be like that, wouldn't it yeah actually where's the one that we took off where'd that go, let's go buzz that one off yeah about the same size. So this is going to be a smaller displacement and not be what we need, but it's always a butt. There's one more up there.

That was more complete, we'll see if that one works in the stash. What is that one got to offer it's heavier? It's got that funky pull start thing that you put the little electric motor on. Let's go, bring that one down real quick. I think i see right away.

This spark plug almost goes straight up and down or straight out, i should say, and this one's kicking out on an angle going that direction. Let's get some plastic out of our way and we'll see we have a better look yeah, it's like a totally different setup. Huh where's that other cylinder head yeah that one's thinner going across than that wasn't for not wanting to try. I think if we could use that whole assembly with the whole assembly be the same.

Let's go grab get that gas tank and carburetor out of our way. Yeah that one's got the same like on a 45 crank that the little one did and we are still dealing with this style, which would let's get our orientation correct again like that, like that pull stars on that side, so we have oil fills on the other Side, one thing: i wonder again now it's just for the challenge: it's not for the longevity of repairing, because these are essentially the throwaway machines. Let's go and take the cylinder head that one's much shorter, too huh yeah. It's not going to fly so much differences between the two of them see if we steal the piston out of the other one.
If we can put this one together, let's see what that even looks like. Let me go clean that and see what we got. It's pretty cooked that wall is chewed up. Just you right right there, that's where that piston was all busted up, and my skirt was just kind of chomping, so curious like why it failed, though i don't know what you can see where it hammered the top of that ring a bunch of times.

I can get you getting in the light or not there overheated. Maybe the thing is it's a big fan. You know it on a leaf blower. It uses the fan that blows air to draw air across the uh jug to cool it, whereas, like you see on a weed, whacker they'll have to build a fan for and then have air kind of draw with the plastic shroud blow across the cylinder head and Uses that so i wouldn't think it would start for air.

Let's take a quick look over here at this mess and usually there's a port might be like that port right there that pumps, the air across the top of the cylinder head weed rackers, are a dime. A dozen i i see them in the trash all the time. I'd rather have a functioning leaf. Blower i'm trying to get to not that i need one but they're, just more valuable, whoa wee whackers there again they're, not much value to them.

So i'm gon na go take a few minutes. I'm gon na go tear it down and if i find anything interesting i'll bring you back when i have the piston out or towards the piston, we'll take a look at it just in case there's a possibility that we can use it see we get. Ah, there's always one right that goofy angle that you can't get nope will our friend little vice grips, get her to go there. It goes a ton of loctite on that fighting.

It should be able to get a screwdriver. Now there you go. If i didn't strip it out, we let's go a would bigger, think we stand a chance. You wouldn't think they would design so many parts so different.

You try to use some stuff over right. It could be even a totally different manufacturer, just her name on it, though sorry says this one's got a rubber o-ring for a gasket on the bottom. The other one didn't have that on maybe where's the old one what'd you do with it. I think it is a hair, it's a little bigger.

We were so close, it is about ten percent and i'll be five percent bigger. We were close, actually, here's the jug another one that we want to save yeah. This is gon na, be too sloppy in the hole. Oh wow, let's go quick.

Look at the two cylinder heads one we just took off. You can see the board this one's a little bit. Bigger bolt pattern is different and we're not gon na be able to swap too much stuff around to get them to work. Ladies and gentlemen, not for lack of trying, i still don't know why it failed there.

I don't know why it failed. What the issue is, what, with it again, we saw no air cleaner in it. My thought is: probably the air cleaner got dirty wouldn't run anymore. They took the air cleaner out of it and then continue to use it, maybe sucked in dirt.
Hey. Let's go split that open. Why not okay, putting up a flight, i wonder if it's left handed thread right hand, thread left hand, thread right, handed thread, reverse thread. What depends how you're looking at it right? Let's go the other way.

No because it's loose, they like they like their loctite, that's for sure i mean i think it's on there, foreign got them all. I think the gasket's going to stop us that peeled away so, okay, the roller bearings or the crank. I do not see any bits and i pieces, i see one. Let's see all right, there's a piece of the like a couple of pieces in there is that one i'll just grab it with your finger, see if i can do any damage to the to the bottom in flopping around the dipper is still there.

This is a dipper slinger. This is what flings the oil around. So this oil, this crankcase probably sits with oil, probably about right to there. Then, as this thing is spinning, this dipper goes down into the oil and slings it and splashes it around and oils the uh bits and pieces that need oil just yet the rpms that it's at, i don't see anything and that one chunk.

That's probably the last bit of it, i'm sure, there's another one right. There we've got some right there right, oh yeah, there you go hold that one, so i would have had to come apart anyway to get all those little bits out of there. I'm surprised, there's so much webbing down inside here, so it kept it from falling back out again. The only thing we got left is a little a little camp.

You have set up a different size, apparently oh they just boogered out. Well, i get the feeling they're boogered out without even us touching them, that's not it! So that's not it maybe a size in between the two of those you you're it she's still sloppy. Give her a shot, see what happens? What do we cares? Junk right, yeah? You lost your timing. Does that like a little advance on it like what is this wheel? What's this look at that? It's got like a little advance to it and expect to see that let's go pick that out of there.

I think that's what it is right. Where is it? Can i come out? Hmm almost feels like there's a little spring. Clip too i can push those out there. I guess here's something i didn't expect to see there.

That is yeah. What do you think that does nothing for ignition? It wouldn't mean submission, so the yeah, so it is the gear separate from that. I don't think so. Is this all one piece, because the gear is directly locked into that, and this is the cam that the two, the rockers for the the lifters are going see how the oblong part of it? I don't know.

No, it's not a. I thought it was like a variable valve timing, which would have been kind of pretty slick for this huh. Let's see if that cam moves separate of it. I think it's all one piece: i'm gon na go uh clean up on a wire wheel, real quick, we'll take a look at it yeah.
I think it's all one piece i'll give her a couple of love, taps and see if it moves down. It looks to be one piece, though, does not seem like it's two differently. Two different cast surfaces, though oh no wait a gap disappearing. I think the gaps appearing in there.

Let's go tap it a little more if it was a some kind of advance. I think it's frozen. I think it was stuck in place yeah, it's definitely coming out of there yeah, so i think it was it was. I think it was a cam so that the sprocket - and this are not tied together.

I wonder if this is holding it. Whatever this is right here looks like a crimp of sorts: doesn't it something would have to hold it together? Let's go bust, it free and get a punch that fits in there better and stop dropping it. I would think this surface would go with it right there. It goes, and what do we got we got? Crap is what we got, but there's no play.

There's no play between that like that, would have to be an area where it can slip right. That would have to be able to shift like that, and i don't see that happening. I don't know what all that funky stuff is for, so i'm going to leave it up to you to. Let me know what your thoughts are on there, because i don't know if i had a little bit because it looks like you know at first.

I thought that's what it was doing. You rev it up and slow it down. It would kind of change the cam timing, but now it's all locked together. Well guys.

I think we did our damage. For today we had piles of junk everywhere, i'm going to steal some good pieces, i'll take the pull, starts and some other stuff and hold on to them, probably the carbs, and maybe that that flex tube. I can go put that on another machine. That's a common thing that fails on them, but the rest of it is gon na go, get chucked in the trash and uh.

I don't know uh. My guess is that rain started the air cleaner got dirty. They took the air filter off it, they kept running it and then just kind of maybe sucked up some debris or gravel. You know it's a leaf blower, so you're digging up you're blowing a bunch of crap on the ground and you can possibly suck something up that took it out, but yeah it's a when that happens.

It's much more of like a a locked up, scorn piston, not a broken piston like that. Usually it just seizes up the cylinder walls get so crappy that the piston would just lock up on the walls, not busting the aluminum. Apart could be just that. You know a flaw in how it was made.

So if you want to make your opinion, what you think happened to it feel free to write it down and uh. Maybe somebody has the answer to it and i'm not aware of well the free pile's gon na be starting up again pretty soon. It is springtime, so everybody tries taking their stuff out and they left it with old gas in it and they don't run and then they throw them away and they buy new ones and we come along with a truck thrown in the back of the truck when We bring it back here, we see if we can revive it. I don't think this one.
I tried i tried if that pistol was gon na fit. I was gon na, go, try putting it back together and firing it up, but it just wasn't in the cards. All right guys, i'm babbling, thank you all for hanging out with me doing some wrenching and uh we'll do it again soon until then, later.

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