a friend picked up this machine while looking for antique cars, he tried to get it going but was having run issues with it, lets bring it back to my shop and see if we can figure it out, more videos on this machine can be seen hereon drive analog, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjq44U_HVW4
Hey guys how's it going another friend of mine shop. He ended up picking up this 1984. Is it a3 83 suzuki 125 three-wheeler that he grabbed from a pick a couple weeks ago, yep and i'll? Let you tell the story yeah, so i was over uh an estate and i went over to look at some cars and i was walking around a bunch of different barns and stumbled across this under a bunch of junk and the old farmer used to use it Check his fence line he's got 2 300 miles on it, so he used it and he got too old to ride it, parked it in the barn and it sat there for about 20 years and then you came along made an offer and then yeah. Now you own it no cars, you getting cars from the pick.
You got no cars, it takes up less room, but you were brought it back. You were able to get it running, the fuel was all crappy and everything you pulled the carburetor twice, but now it's kind of starves yeah, it's weird it. It seemed like an idle jet issue to me, but it it. When i first got.
I started on starter. Fluid you know check for spark and fire it up. So then i took the carb off because it wouldn't idle and went through and cleaned the car. Put it back on same problem, took it back off and went completely through it and then put it back on same problem, so i'm missing something he called me over to to look at it and see if i can help figure it out.
I said how about i throw it on my truck: we bring it back to my shop, put it up on the operating table and uh see if we can get it ourselves running and we'll make a video of it. What does three by six mean? I have no idea yeah, that's odd, yeah, i'm sure the comments will answer that one, but anyway, it looks decent. The tires actually they're, like the first thing that go and look like their originals and they're. Not all cracked and busted up yeah they're great shape yeah for something that yeah again is a great shape.
It sat indoors, you could definitely tell it, was not out in the weather like most of the crap, that i i dragged home anyway, so you made a video of it. Actually, you got the the pic one and it's in there and then i'm going to do a video of this uh. It's on drive, analog and yeah. So i mean the video of the we'll have all the cars and everything will and it's okay.
I had a video of this finding this in the pile of junk in the corner, so i'll put a link to his uh channel. If you guys want to see the beginning of where it was at that property and if you've got a video you're putting together trying to get it running i'll, just link it to this one, all right guys, let's go throw it in my truck and uh, see How we can make out, let's see we got it, doesn't look too beat you know other than that, it's stuff! That's! You know four wheelers three wheels. They just get written hard, it's just the nature of them. The area around here is real rocky and hilly and trees, so they definitely take on some abuse.
I think he said they used this one on a farm and for what 39 years old? It's really not that terrible. I guess we should probably do maybe we'll fire it up and we'll get a quick list and see what it's doing if it'll fire up - and we kind of you know see if we're getting better or worse as we work on it, we get you sit up In a stand, let's have at it, let's give her a couple of pull up on the choke. It says it's on. I don't have any other switch besides that, hopefully it doesn't rip out of our hands. I smell. Yes, let's kill that. What's a quiet one, we'll pop the seat off we're just gon na go over everything! I'm not it's kind of a bad idea to trust what somebody else does and then it has a tendency to burn you. So we're just gon na go over every item and see what we come up with.
First, let's go actually it says choke there, but i see a separate button. It might be cable operated. Let's go pull on that cable, see. If that comes out now, it might help give her another couple ganks, just in yeah case how you like stuff for the electric start, all right, let's go get a urine sample out of the gas tank, see we're working for fuel.
I know we should have changed it. I don't know if you can clean the tank, though you know, let's let that settle out for a second i'm gon na. Do one more i'm gon na try to make sure i get all the way to the bottom of the tank, just in case there's water in it. If there is it'll settle out in the fuel all right, it doesn't look terrible if you had water in it.
At the very bottom, you would see like a uh well i'll, show you i'll put a little bit of water in it. The camera's picking that up, but you can see on the bottom the water was dirty - would definitely show up more, but you see how it's got two different levels to it. So i think we're good with that. Not saying that there's not in the float ball.
Let's go and let's plug out of it, we'll check what we got for spark yeah. It actually looks pretty good. It kind of looks fairly decent, a little carboned up, not bad. Of course, the pull starts on the other side.
Let me hop up that looks good. I'm just waiting to hook a drill to it to spin it over. Instead of trying to pull start it shall we put a little bit put a gas in the cylinder and see if that'll fire off first get the plug back in it and give her a tug choke's off. So here's the throttle, yeah runs and then dies.
It is definitely starving for fuel. Let's crack that the bowl drain open see if we get anything out of it. It's a middle of february. We got a warm day, let's cut.
No, i won't exactly call that a bunch of gas and nothing in the float. Let's pull right out just in case that's clogged. The fuel tank on this is lower. That would do it.
Huh is lower than the the bowl, so it's got to have a way to pump fuel up to it. Let's get this plastic off out of our way and kind of see what's going on, underneath it yeah, it's definitely enough gas to run. We got on this looks like one two, three, four, maybe something else. Let's get that skin out of our way see we can find underneath what does that go to there? We go that's what's happening in there. It's a warm a rare, warm day. Everybody's got their motorcycles out in the middle of february, so it's got a fuel pump. So, let's break the lines going down. Oh, this is a guard right here.
This is in the tank. We have the line, that's going to be the feed going to the carb. This is one of them is going to be the line going into the tank to draw fuel out, and something has to send a signal for this to work. These are like diaphragm fuel pumps or pulse pumps, and it takes a pulse from the engine as the engine runs.
It's not a constant level there. I don't know the best way to put it it as the piston goes up down the crankcase kind of changes up and down and the same thing with the carb. There's a there's a pulse to it. Well, that pulse signal you run to a fuel pump that fuel pump will run a diaphragm and have the diaphragm move slightly in and out up down and it'll supply you with fuel.
I don't see. Maybe this line all right, so we got one here, uh, it's kind of a weird area for it. I wouldn't think that would be it might be. Generally, it's kind of that might be a gig.
I was saying it's going to be on somewhere on the the venturi and, if you look at it, you actually see inside the carburetor. The boss goes down. That might be just a vent for the float ball, though i'm not sure yet. Actually right there there you go, it's got a primer on it, so that's probably it right there.
Maybe let's go give that a couple of we still have that screw out of the carburetor. I think so now, before initial start up yeah the screw still out right. It's loose nope, i tightened it. Let's see if that did anything.
Let's leave that right out, we'll give her a couple of shots. A little different system. When i'm used to gas smells kind of rocked there. You go yes little manly pushes it in there, but wouldn't you think that screw go? I should be able to fill that float bowl up, though right with that, i also know.
There's a prime setting should be a prime setting on the it's not reserved off that prime or on that's on it's off. No, it doesn't have a prime off reserve and on so leave it on reserve. I get you there's a lower pickup on the fuel bowl. Let's go so, it seems like it's overflowing the bowl.
I get a better idea when we take that that off of there what it looks like and do we have enough fuel should i fill that bowl now, it's a little different than i'm used to all right. Uh guys that are used to this already you're making comments how stuff works. Let's i wonder if we should pull a fuel line off, so there's got to be three lines going to this. It might have one going straight, this way coming off the tank, and this one would be the the pulse. Where does that go? It's got two areas, i'm suspecting right now one is either the float is so the float is so off that no fuel is allowed to get into there or the pump is not working. So i primed it the best we can. Let's see if we can go kick this thing on its side and that should be full of fuel, and if it is, then the primer part of it is working plus. I want to look in there anyway, just to see how things are and we got to figure out why the pump, if it sounds like it'll, run it'll prime, what he was saying.
But then it just doesn't take over and start pumping fuel to it, which could be just the pump is just junk. You know again sitting for 20 years. A lot of you guys are lucky you're able to get fuel easy. It doesn't have ethanol in it.
All this stuff made in the 70s and 80s - it's just not made for acne and older than that. That's got plenty of fuel, but that fuel man looks yellow too. Let's just see what we get, we can get it like airports. You can go to.
Let's just see what we got going on in here on the cloudy side, let's um run that primer yeah shoot right over there, so we know at least the flow is good going to it, just whether the pump is doing anything all right in here, because he Also said it didn't idle, he would get it running and it wouldn't idle. So there's a main jet and an idle jet, i'm going to go pop, the let's go pop, both of them out real, quick and just make sure they're functioning correct. It's nice! It's got a plastic gas tank. Keeps it really getting cruddy, that's going to be the jet, not the whole thing i hope nothing's going to crack loose and let's get the pin out it'll.
Take the float right off too. I want to see if that uh float, sunk brass floats, have a tendency to crack and fill up a fuel. I'm just going to give that a quick. I don't feel anything juicy going around on the inside.
Stop it so again, this is the idle and i got ta get a pair of pliers for that hard to say: okay, he had it all apart. We suspect it's clean, but again just want to check everything. What's the last year of uh three wheelers, i thought it was like 86 87.. They kind of beamed them and outlawed them.
Yeah. You look underneath the uh microscope, real quick, we'll see we got that looks like it's got kind of some kind of scuzz on it. Huh, i don't think it's our problem, but here's what i used to look at things. You wait until you're over 50., so that's got some crap on it.
I see some whatever that is right there i just peeled off and then down the center of it right. A big dirt stain going down the side of it, don't mind my tool, don't mind my dirty tool. I hope that shows up or not there is some crap. The center hole is open, but that crap around the edge knock it off.
I'm gon na go clean that up. I don't think that was any of our problem, that is, on the main, the idle jet looked okay, uh. I think this would be an issue if whoops this would be an issue if you had to run out to choke on and it was kind of running lean. I would suspect the main. I don't think we have an issue there, hey it's back on. Let's go! Prime, it up that football fill up we'll see if it fires up a better idea, we're working with all right. She fires up give her some choke yeah, it runs for a second dies, runs and does runs and dies uh, let's prime it up, and then let's go pop, that fuel line off and we'll see if it pumps fuel by itself, we'll see if that system is Even working all right, so a few lines hanging right there we'll see if that sputters out gasps. If it does, then we know the delivery's working.
I want to stay. That's good enough, we'll see if gas just pisses out figures right, i'm going to pop it back on for a second and prime. It feels like it's all the way full, so i'm not seeing anything coming out of that yeah. We got nothing so something's our way with that fuel delivery.
Let's go look at that i'll sound like something else is screwed up, but that's the start for us all right. We know the primer button works and we're able to draw fuel through it. So we know the fuel is coming out of the tank through here and up through the line when we work the primer, but either the pump has got issues internally or we have a vacuum issue which this wasn't in our way. We'd be see a little bit better.
We got ta figure out where that vacuum signal is going. Let me go get this fuel line out of our way and maybe we'll even unscrew, this kind of pull it back a little that is fuel or vacuum, and who knows the order of these is correct. We got one two three: how would that operate? So? I'm just popped off so that one's wet. Let me go label them, we'll pull some stuff off and get a better idea of what's kind of happening in here.
Maybe there's some writing on here that kind of says what they are. Yeah on a garden tractor it'll be behind the pump. It draws it to the center of it. Let's go just call this one: one dot, one dot, two dots, two dots, and that will be three that one looks kind of crappy on the end there too, all right it won't spring is three: it's not gon na stay on there, because the gas again, we Know gas does go through it, though, because we saw a with the primer, not saying it's in the right order, though still kind of suspecting that pump, but all right, so my guess, i'm thinking about it more would be.
This is out to the fuel pump. One of these is going to be reserved. One of these is going to be the odds so once higher one's lower in the tank, and i still think we have something that runs this pump from behind and we knew fuel was going through it. So i don't suspect any of that being clogged, get that pump unbolted and yeah.
There's the vacuum pulse same as the tractor. It comes in from behind that's what fires. The thing let's go, see follow that which light is this one? So where does that? One goes to fuel out, it doesn't make sense, hold on so where's. This one go all right. This is our fuel line fill in the carb, i believe, and this one was going to there. That seems like a strange place that just goes right down to the float ball. What is all right? What is what's that going to nowhere? That's not it! That would be that's an intake leak, direct intake leak, so that line needs to go to there, and that would be the pulse i was talking about, and then this should just be a vent that drops down along the frame and just lets the flow ball be Able to breathe and it might be causing two problems in one, not letting the float bowl breathe because it got locked into the pump. So the air level couldn't change in the float ball like when the float bowl fills with fuel.
It has to dissipate air and that's probably a vent for that. It dissipates air around some other areas too, but i think that might be part of that cause. Let me go get those hoses swapped around. Possibly we could fill the fuel bowl up, we'll try to fire it up, we'll see if this thing uh pulses fuel out of it like it was we're gon na button.
Anything up, i'm just gon na put all the lines back on where they were. I think we will trim back that one that one this one. This one has a pretty big kink in it. I'm gon na trim that one back we'll pop that one on.
So these are the two gas in one's reserve. One is run or on. Let's go clip that one off. This is the one that is drawing fuel from those two through the pump and then out of this line to that one.
So we just leave that off. Right there yeah we'll just leave that off right there we'll see if fuel comes pumping out of there. I hope there's enough gas in the carb to fire up we're looking to see if fuel comes out of that. If it'll start, oh yeah, there's your problem all right, i definitely think we found our initiative or one of them anyway.
I'm gon na go put all that back together again now that we got fuel doing at the fuel pump. Still, i'm glad the pump works and we'll see if it kind of maintains itself and how the idle part works. I ended up changing up that fuel line, the one that we cut the little end off, because i think it was a little too short and i don't think it was routed. I don't think it was meant to be routed around the outside, like that.
Just seems like it would be in harm's way. I think it went behind and got a straight shot along with these other two, because before that it had a pretty big kink to it. So i flipped that around and we'll make that reserve be the fuel on we'll give it a fire up and see what it does if it stays running. And what do we got for carb adjustments? There should be an idle speed and air fuel mix so that that that one's our idle speed and that's air fuel mix right there, probably for idle - and we can leave this one off. So it's gon na solve two problems, one that being open on top. That was the vacuum leak that was going to cause it to run very lean because, instead of it drawing instead of it, drawing air through the carburetor and then mixing fuel with air to draw in. Instead, it takes a shortcut if that port is open. It's going to suck air in through there not mix with the gas, so essentially it's getting more air than it is gas, and it's throwing the mix way off and that would cause.
It definitely have run issues. Also we'll leave this off. For now, too, see we get let's fire it up. We prime it one or two just to fill the float pole in the system.
Yeah, no choke help. We turn it to run idle good, so turn the idle speed up just a little for now, we'll let it warm up a minute and then we'll adjust that air fuel mix put the boot on too. The drag of the air, cleaner kind of helps also almost dies, not terrible, we'll play with that. A little bit too, as it kind of runs, got a little idle.
Do you hear it like popping back martin a little bit make sure that choke's all the way off? Look at that weird two knobs set up a choke. We see where all right, it's half one one and a half two should be right around there. No promises, but it takes a little while to settle down, seems like it's off a little. So it's too far out right now you can tell by that that popping back, but when i run it in i'm not finding a good window for it to operate.
I just leave it right there, plus. Sometimes, if you bring the idle down. The other thing too, is you're going to bang it in here it's got an automatic clutch, so you don't want a high idle. Do somebody justice they got to hit the throttle a little bit because there's a slide inside of here, you just kind of want to lift it up and let it set back down on itself again so that it it's at its resting area.
Instead of trying to just do it by adjusting the knob, that's not terrible! Also inside here, if i find i have a big problem, just see if i start riding it there's a needle, i can move up and down the slide lets a lot of air in adjust it. How much air goes in the needle allows? How much fuel goes in? If i watch you like you'll play with them, you got to run it a little bit, you take it on trails and you get all the way up the temperature and you find out it kind of settles in a little bit different. That's why, especially on this older stuff that screw right there, it's knurled on the side of it, you can actually, while you're riding a bike and over you know, temperature winter summer, hot cold. You can kind of tweak the idle speed up and down a little bit as you're using it.
This isn't hurting anything. This is just a breather that went down to nowhere, so that being open is not causing any issues. That sounds pretty good right there. You tilt it off a little bit, though, by when you rev the gas and you let off how fast it goes back to idle. Actually, it's pretty good. It hangs up a little bit and then kind of drop down. You know you're awesome, it's good! I'm gon na go fun, uh butt up a bunch of crap on it and uh. You know: what's next, throw that on there.
That's the fuel line that i took off, let that just kind of generally there's like a little hole or a valley in the back of the frame that they run down, probably that that hole right there. It's all right, that's stuff, for him to fix up we're, not restoring it. Our job was just to figure out why i wouldn't run right well other than the seat. Everything seems to be back on.
Let's go fire it up and do the gears it's a little rocky see. If we can do this without launching it off the bench, so she starts out too cold start a little bit. It's kind of weird all the gears are down he's got a lever for reverse, not the wheel or the axle. What was it, i think she's pretty quiet on huh you'll, probably even come down that isle a little more.
So i said like after it runs a little bit we're gon na be able to dial in and fine-tune it pretty good. That's my bench like. What's the rattle this, i think purrs huh, okay, like a kitten, is where we hurt ourselves. Reverse the idle speaker.
Probably come down a little bit and stop that grinding, see what it does in the forward gears these things suck at turning. You got to kind of get your weight off. It'll be a 16 point turn. Let's just do that.
Okay, remember they're all down and look at the gears going the wrong way. Tire pressures aren't even give it gas. It goes to one side wrong way. Guess we should check the brakes yep.
This thing needs nice loose gravel to play in i bought you up. There got ta kind of let the inside tire come up. The axles lock together, go scratching be hard. If you go from one thing to another, you know you're used to one biking.
The gears are all up wrong way. Ah this is money back here. Let's get out of here yeah, especially every time you turn you want it on two wheels back tire's about eight inches off the ground. Right now, maybe it'll turn on there's no suspension the tires so laughs.
Well, it was 70 yesterday and it was it's. Twenty nine was it nineteen last night. Eighteen, it was in the truck, so yeah give her a shot, see what it does. I don't know about the choke.
I would just we do double choke yeah. That was a weird setup. I didn't quite understand they call it. The uh retarder or something i don't know the choke limiter.
We say over 40. under 40 use. It see what you get you have to, prime it there you go uh i'll, give it a little bit of gas how's that all right. Let me just turn, maybe that one doesn't oh there we go yeah, it's immediately shut them all off.
Sorry, i smell it's fuel yeah. We flooded it just let it warm up a minute that does light a lot better yeah it's supposed to runs good though it seemed like it was coughing a bit at first and then it kind of went away. I just let it warm up, then i dialed the carbon. He makes out to tweak it a little bit but we'll see what we get. Let that warm up for five minutes and yeah i'll. Let you be the nice idol, though, test dummy, okay, my turn running out of fuel first time on a three-wheeler, maybe the last time. Well, that works a lot better he's leaning the wrong way lean to the outside, go the opposite direction. It's counterintuitive, like you, want to make it yeah, let that tire come up and it'll turn there.
You go yeah. I told him he's going to take out his left ankle and his left knee because he's going to put his foot down and drive over he's right. Close to it leave me the other way. That's so weird! Now you got ta easily in the other way.
So you pick the tire up, yeah you're right. I know what you mean because it's locked, you know it'll just push. If you don't yeah it pushes it forward yeah, so you got ta, let one of the time the easier tires. The inside tire will lift up, which is weird sucking under there yeah.
I had it way out yeah i made the comment. That's you know. I wish there was an indicator up here. Can you turn that choke off now it'll idle down? Oh wow, so it'll be easier to shift too.
If it's not who doesn't hurt revenue little kid hold up, please all right. How many think is it gon na take how it's got? It can't be more than two and a half gallons. Oh, we can see that much. I'm gon na say one point.
One point: three, i'm gon na go with 1.6. What if you're gon na make it so it clicks off, but then you get to keep filling it and dump it on the ground. What yeah see you're gon na make it so it gets there it. Actually, it could take a little bit more yeah i'll go with that.
Oh wait is it on? Is it on yeah? I don't think it will start in here choke off yeah. You don't need that i'll see. You make a great thumbnail i starting here tomorrow. Oh yeah, this might be a good, dumb idea.
I think it's a great dumb idea: yeah! Oh yeah! I don't don't lose my three-wheeler, oh no, they melt from the outside in don't they yeah that reverse works. Good! It's cracking! Oh yeah! Oh that'd be perfect out here. Yeah, it's sticky, oh, looks like too much fun now he's in trouble a little bit over there delta guys so uh. What the heck is.
That sounds yeah, it's totally worth it so guys. I hope you enjoyed this two middle-aged man. Having fun on a 14 year, old's toy spinning around and bringing back our our childhood a little bit, it definitely was fun. I hope we get about an inch of snow or so uh and kind of putting around a little bit of traction.
It'd be awesome. You can do a little uh truck times on the ice and hopefully i'll get the four wheeler going, and even when i can get hurt together all right guys with that, i can sign off. Thank you all for hanging out doing a little bit of ranching a little bit of fun little wheeling for the next one i'll see you bye.
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