Hey guys, how's it going I Got a couple of snow blowers that were given to me a couple of years ago and uh, both of them had issues with them I don't remember what those were at this time, but uh, both of them were broke and they were free. So it is winter I Think it'd be a good time for us to take them down and try to revive them. Possibly get one of them to run out of the two, get two of them to run out of the two, Get none of them to run out of two and we'll just kind of figure out what happened to them. But let's give it a shot. I'm gonna go drag them downstairs and uh, we'll pick one to work on both of them. are you know, similar? They're both Aaron's 724s and I don't know the years difference on them. I would say they're probably about I don't know, five or ten years apart by The Styling of them. So go see what we got. Let's give her a walk around and see if we see anything obvious just standing out. A lot of times the gearbox goes, it's a common thing. What you'll see is the shear pins. These are shear pins. They're bolts that go through, but they're both meant to snap off at a certain amount of resistance. They look like they are the correct ones. Foreign. jumping out right away at us. Actually looks pretty decent. Tires are flat. that's why you're just from sitting. It's like that might be blowing out a little bit right in there on the deck. Let's give her a pull, see if it chug's over foreign starts broken off the other one. Hold up. get a foot up. Feels like it's got a decent compression. I Don't see anything blown up on the engine? What we can do. We could take it. we could flip it up on its uh, Auger. And we can take the belly pan off, take a peek underneath and look at the transmission and see what's going on inside there. Let's give it a yeah gas tank a sniff. Unfortunately, it's a plastic tank so even if it's crappy, it should be really easy to clean out. There is fuel in it. Let me get you on the pointy light area. It's got some vintage to it. It smells like it's about five years old. You see by the color of it too. All right, let's get her flipped up on the auger. take the belly pan off. I Think the chances are I could do it without lowering the table. Keep it clear. should stay. Let's get that paint off the bottom too. Already loose. I Think that you can just they're just kind of keyed in. It should slip out of them without taking the bolts out all the way. So rat's nests come out of here. Actually pretty clean. Sometimes They're really nasty. Another thing that kind of fails on these is What's called the drive disc. Some light on it. Something. That's the drive disc. It's looking pretty worn down. It may have been what it was stopped getting used for. it. didn't have enough pull anymore. When you grab it in. Gears The lever up top, you squeeze the handle. This and this make contact. This is driven all the time from a belt. I'm gonna give her a quick peek. that gear looks a little foreign. a little thin in the tooth like they're They've gotten tapered off and they're lean in. One Direction See what? I'm saying. See what? I am seeing that you even hear it run it backwards noise I Don't see you broken off though. nylon. It's either you make it out of metal, right? All right. No mouse nests. Hmm. there's bushings on the axles. You're going to be here and here. Sometimes they get a lot of play in them. They'll actually cause the disc to not get in there that looks like it's just all wheel. It's like it's lubed so it can slide from side to side. That's for the shifter. When you grab it up, the more you go closer you are to. Center is more first gear than where you go to the outside would be like a fist gear and then you go the opposite direction on the disc. it would be reverse because you're actually spinning this the opposite direction. Now they're in a disc being fairly a little on the low side. I'm not seeing anything that's really detrimental. All right, let's go lay it back down. let's go start looking into the engine I guess and we'll fire that up and maybe we'll take a spin on that gearbox real quick and make sure there's no issues with. um what I talked about with the giggers being fried on it? Well I got it flicked up and one thing I can kind of see is so this is what's called The Cutting Edge which is this piece of metal right here and this is just the top part of it? Well somebody Let The Cutting Edge wear down pretty far and it was wearing into the tub. Then it looks like they loosened the bolts up and they kind of slid it down a little more. Sometimes you can flip it over I don't think this one you can where I want to use this is um kind of gravel so this would not be touching the ground anyway. this is for like pavement and here's that damage we were looking at before. a little bit of banged up of the housing. well take its temperature right. looks pretty clean. watches like nothing wrong with it. it's full. hmm foreign on it. All right. let's um, let's hook a uh plug up to it's got electric start. it's kind of spin it over and just give it a quick listen. See if we hear anything funky the fat plug in there, see if it'll fit close. All right. See we get actually sounds pretty good. You just want to try firing it on the gas that's in it. The gas is already on with some. see if we can tickle the float ball, see if any gas comes out. I Suspect we'd have to take the carburetor apart anyway, but we got. We are missing the key. If it even has it, feels like it's missing altogether. jelly. There's a key that you put in and all. It just opens a set of contacts that's choke on so it may not have spark. Let's give her a couple of that's primer, see if he does anything. Let's go pop a plug and uh, keeps getting spark. Actually, we'll put it inline. Checker In it, we're going down to 17 below 17 below. Fahrenheit this weekend I Think a wind chill of 45 below. I Think there's a saying it's still cold. it's too cold to snow. see if that holds true. All right, let's see if that flickers at all actually. I Probably get it from here. Where's the button? Go there. Somewhere there you go got. Spark I Just smell the raw fuel coming out of the month like that. Let's um, let it breathe, get rid of the choke, and now we just kind of crank it over a little. just kind of. Fire and nothing. The fuel is probably just so bad. Let's uh, pop that plug out of there real quick. Foreign electric or battery powered snow blowers. All right. Electric one's been around for a while, but battery's powered. Kind of wonder how they're gonna work overtime because I I know like if you get like negative 17. we just talked about how good did the batteries work when it's that cold I don't wonder how much time you're gonna get out of plug. looks really uh, like oil felt. see if it Sparks touching the middle so can you see if I jump. you know it's got spark current All right. All right. Yeah it's going like great but let's give her a little bit of a direct injection there to plug back in. I'm just here for fires I suspect it's gonna compression. Sounds decent. could always have a sheer flywheel key so it Sparks at the wrong time and we're gonna find out right about now so that should make it go Okay A Little handheld here. Foreign. she blows all right. So we're gonna look into the fuel system. That's gonna be our first thing to address and if we get the engine working correctly, we'll start chasing some of the other parts of it and see if we have any. um, like I said blown gearboxes or anything. If you grab that and that spins with a good cheer pin it, you already know what's gone so far. Seems pretty good. They generally have a bit of play to them, that's nothing to worry about. All right, let's get that, uh, chain off the side up. We'll get the float ball out and see we got for fuel. Throttle should just pop right out of there. we go I Think we got three that hold the tin on. You could probably take the bowl off without taking this off. So for filming purposes foreign, keep pissing. Let's go drop that bowl. Let's get a a cup to put underneath it and see what it looks like. A little urine, sample a drink. it's feeling a little gummy. Foreign look terrible at all. Definitely seemed worse. Let's go turn that gas back on because there wasn't much fuel in there. That should have been pretty much, uh, the floor ball should have been full. Is it pissing? It is not. I Think the needle is stuck. So there's something called the needle. There it goes that just dropped something called the needle and seat and it maintains a level of fuel in the football and as the engine runs, it kind of draws from that. tries to maintain about two-thirds of the way up that ball so that was stuck into one position so no fuel was coming in at all. That's all that clean. I'm gonna let that piss for a little bit. actually just kind of take some carb clean. We're just gonna go clean that bowl out and we may just go to put it back up. We'll let all this fuel run out Take whatever's in here out. it'll empty that carb. We'll put some fresh stuff in it. see what we get I think we've got some water going on there too. I'll show you in a minute. We'll let it do its thing. Stay yeah, it's definitely uh, got a few years on it. There's the the jet is sitting on the bottom of the ball. That's not what I'm looking at I'm looking at the material. let me get that out of there. Let's go in. You see the other material that's floating around in there. It's dirt. It's actually dirty water and it puddles up and it just sinks to the bottom and that will cause a that's probably just from sitting I Don't think that uh was why it was put away. It's not going to run on that. so I'm going to dump this out. What I'm going to do is instead of taking everything apart I'm gonna put some fresh fuel in the tank. It looks like it's pretty low. I'm gonna let it kind of flush itself so we get some clean stuff coming out of it generally when I pull the carb and clean them every time I'm trying to cheat and just see if we can Purge it and hopefully it'll run fine I Don't have a good success rate of doing that, but let's just see what we're gonna do is we're going to fire it up and it's either gonna be okay. A Lot of times what they'll do is they'll hunt like rev up and dive, rev up and die. Put a load on, they'll be okay. What happens is the idle circuit gets clogged and dirty. But we're gonna go find out that looks pretty good for cleaning it out. It's getting clean fuel now. Shut the fuel off. I'm gonna just go clean that jet that we dug out of the bottom of the bowl. This is the main jet right here. this one. You can see a bunch of feel that sludge on the bottom. I'm sure it's showing up or not. Yeah, that's all plugged up so that's get cleaned that draws fuel through the center of that, through those holes and up through the center. That's not gonna work. It wasn't turn the fuel on real quick and we'll see if there's any overflowing. If not, we'll slap the plug back in and go because if I go to take that apart, we're going to lose the gasket up top. What happens is over time they expand and you won't get them back in again. It was still stuck to the the surface that's on there. We're approaching it gingerly. Let's say I'm gonna go throw the plug back in. Is it in? yeah, plug's already in. Let's um, throttle. you want some choke which is going to be that way. Let's back you up a little bit. We'll give her a couple of primes and see if she fires up. That felt better I Felt like it did something. Go let it run for a second. We gotta try to work that choke off. see if we can get the wrong with that joke off. Foreign, foreign. Get rid of that. Yeah, we got no idle circuit. after you hear that hunting that was going on. it's kind of what I was talking about. generally. I'll just go ahead and clean it I Kind of wanted to show what would happen. Yeah, what am I kidding right? let's go fire it up one more time. See what? I'll idle? It'll go to it. Wants to go to idle? There's no fuel happening there whatsoever. so then it gives itself. Full Throttle To try to recover, it goes on the main jet or run for a little while and it goes over a REV and tries to go back down. shut back off again. but then there's no fuel here again so we're gonna go pop that little guy right out there. There's a circuit inside the carburetor that's kind of enclosed, sometimes has a tendency to clog. Let's get the jet out. Sometimes you can shoot air through here and you can get it to pierce and clear itself out. sometimes not so far. That part seems like it's okay. I Went to go bump it in gear and the tires did roll back a little bit so everything else looks fairly decent. Yeah, that could have been why I was put away. It's yeah. not sure you can say put away. Why I was stopped. Why it stopped getting used. This is just a rubber plug and it's hiding a jet expensive inside there. That one just gets threaded all the way in. So we're gonna go try and see now if you can see it holes in it. I'm gonna go clean that out and then we're also gonna go clean that out. try it one more time. If not, we're gonna have to go tear that card apart and I'll show you that circuit that's inside basically. I Want to try to drive through the center of that if it shoots out the two ports. try not to get it in your eyeballs. go this way. You can see that it's uh, you can't see anything. you can see. it's shooting through there and there so that looks like it's pretty clean and for you, let me do that. I'm gonna hit it with some compressed air with an air gun. kind of push that Passage through a little bit. leave that cap off for now. we just put that in and just run it all the way in. It's not an adjustment. It's not like it's an air fuel mixture, it's just a jet. Let's go try it again. see what it does? Give her that it's the fuel on or off fuel still on? Yeah, same exactly. Let's go down towards where an idle would be here. A couple of primes should run for a second on the Prime Gas Sometimes like a lot of times, people will take the joke and try giving it more choke to. kind of like find a little happy medium like watch because you're rigiding the mixture up a little bit when you turn the choke on, especially more when you're on the higher end. so that's got a clogged idle circuit. We're going in. We're gonna go take that carb off and see if we can save this one. If not, we'll put another carb on it. but at least I'll show you you know where the issue is and hopefully try to fix it. Even after I purged that fuel out of there, you still see a little bit of water puddle that's going around inside there washing out and sometimes that will do it to you if you have a snow blower. Generally it's not losing an idle, it'll just kind of like it'll run. It'll die for like three seconds and then like it'll come back or it'll die all together. but it fires right back up again. The jet like Pretend This is the bowl. The jet is sucking up that water. It'll like draw it to the center. It'll it'll It'll draw that up. It can't throw all the water up because it's a little too thick to get through the jet. If it does get up. It just doesn't burn but it gets there and then machine dies. the the water will separate, go back out of the way the center of the jet. It'll run for a little while until like we just did it. It'll draw eventually. it'll start drawing that water to the center of the jet again and it'll clog it all over again. So if you see that that might be your issue that's gonna be able to see. But sometimes you taking you take a carb off and you get a bunch of linkages. It has a bunch of different holes I Like to take a scribe or just a sharp shoe drop something, put a couple scratches on the one that it was into. If you use a marker you use any kind of carb cleaner it'll come off. So generally just like to put a couple scratches in it indicating which ones which. The other one only has one hole so we know that one's not going anywhere. but this one has a couple looking sort from let's go crack her back open. she probably pissed that gas out of there. turn it up to the input, it should come out. Really wanna give that needle and see to clean anyway. So you might go shutting the fuel off and turning it on all right. But I should get a proper sandwich. No new dirt so we're gonna take that float out of there. Let's go take the seal off first. This is what happens a lot of times. this seal will puff up. It's okay if like, you can have the carburetor in your hand upside down, you can kind of put the oven, get the bowl on it. but if you're trying to get it upside down, it's almost next one possible. All right. So that's going to be our needle seat. Looks pretty good. So the chamber that we're trying to fix is going to be right inside here. This is like the where the idle circuit is and it's got a leg that comes off of it. You can see it's clean that off. Add more crap in there. There's a little check ball on the end of it. There's a passage in here I Believe there's a check ball that moves inside here also that opens and closes and a lot of times there is a port on the side here that you can kind of poke through and breathe through. It's a bit of a pain to try to get clean. I'm gonna go look and see if we can, um, push the center out of it. Easier to do from the other side, but I didn't take the hardware off yet. Yeah, we're gonna be able to reach in there. there is a see that red down the center. that's that stem can come out of there. Let me get the Uh, intake the butterfly out of the way and we'll see if we can poke that out of there and access that port. They got them locted in and unfortunately that one cam down I'm gonna try putting a little bit of heat sometimes he will break up the Loctite it just has a little flame on the inside I don't see it. it's actually a soldering iron. Give that to anything for us I May yes that one's even worse. heat's not gonna do it. Let's um. I'm gonna look under there and see if I could see that little Port I can actually see I don't know. you guys are gonna have a hard time trying to let me have to try to Envision it down behind the camera look so damn it's gonna be where this is. a pinhole going through this side. all right there. I'm in it right now. so that's the passage. I'm going to try to get opened up and try spraying some fluid through it a lot of times you don't have a good success rate. you can try so soaking it in an ultrasonic cleaner. The problem is you'll just want to clean it. The fluid you know will fill up. This chamber really does not get into here, so good thing is I think the carbs are like 30 bucks a piece. They're not terribly expensive, but we're going to attempt to try to get this one clean if I can get something a little bit finer than this. I'm going to try to work that that Port through, get it to get cleared out. try to get some brake clean on a hose to spray through that and see if it'll work for us. So one thing I do Yeah, pick's kind of big for going in there. Take a a wire brush and pull one of the bristles on it and kink a bend on the inside of it. A lot of people try sending me and have sent me um, like gun cleaning tips and um, they that kind of stuff is just too big. It's too big to fit in the Jets little pipe cleaner setups so that I got a good feed going through it. The problem is you don't know if the clog is there or if it's in a different spot. So again, we're going to just try our best to get that cleared out. I'm also going to take that screw back out of there. just work it back and forth. I'm going to try again. the egg to flush out foreign probably got about a 30 success rate. You would think it would be more than that, but it's not. Yeah, like a lot of times I think it's there's a ball that moves up and down there sometimes. If you grab it, you make sure the choke's not rattling and here I'm not sure if this is that correct on this car, but I do not hear it kind of. Frozen In place? Yeah, Go put it back together real quick and see what we get before. I Put the carb on. Explain one thing. So the uh plunger. You see me hitting on the outside for a little bit of a prime that just, uh, shoots a pulse of air into the float. Bowl And there is a vent. It's very small, very pinhole that kind of goes through so the float can kind of breathe a little bit, but when you give it enough of a shot of air pushed in, it physically forces fuel. kind of pressurizes the float ball forces fuel up through that Main Jet and just kind of wets the center of it a little bit and then as soon as you pull it over, it dumps a little bit of raw fuel that helps you get going. That's how the primer works. If your seal is no good, anything along those lines, you have any kind of leak that's in here. The primer won't work because the air is just shooting out the side of the bowl. So go pop that back on there and see what we get. And one last thing. I Took the bowl back off. just uh. when you try and index the bowl generally I try to index it. the uh, low spot goes with the low spot of the float is so that you're not impeding the travel of the float that's not on there, right? Good thing we took that back off. The Uh needle is not on the right side of the PIN came off. See how that's sitting like that? No no, that would have sucked. We would have been in there trying to get it. There's a uh, a retainer that the float has to be over on the PIN actually it is there in coronation. Did it just go on? Now it may have put the pin back in. Ah I Know what happened. Want a shot air in it I pushed the seat up. that seat is sitting a little too high. My dental pick will push it back down. there. we go now. it's back in place your Care Blue air through it that way if you blow air through it this way that little seal that's in there can pop out of it and it was sitting a little proud. I may have to go change. I'm gonna look under the scope real quick. that might be a little on the damaged side. sorry about the background noise. that's the heat that's on. I'm gonna go see if I have one in a kit. Yeah, that's got some corrosion on it. Let me see if I have one. Yeah, that's how the old one came out. pretty much. uh, go into powder. That's the thing the seat is supposed to rust against to uh, block off I'm not sure when ethanol came out when did it start, but I think um, a lot of the components. you know which? my guess is this snowboards probably from the 90s would have an issue. The components aren't meant to hold up to it. Oh, shove that guy Down in the Hole and let's try putting it together this time until we make out. Looks pretty good. That's more like it. The float's sitting parallel with the base of it when it's in the down position and it flips over and opens. all right now. I'm going to reassemble it. put it back on. Nice. Try it again. A couple of primary shots to give her up in the upper range and don't try backing off. We'll give her. let's give her half a choke. it's better, but it still has that same issue. We're gonna let it warm up a little bit. let's give her some ribs, see if it'll take it foreign success rate and you can hear it just has no idle. You go down to go towards that. there's just nothing there. so unfortunately that little path is blocked and you get it to get clear and soaking it you possibly can. I'm gonna look upstairs real quick and see if I have another carb for it and maybe we just swap out a new one and see if it goes away. Hey, remember ordering usually I Do it like I'll put a warning for like four, especially at the combined shipping that's I think the part number that's on it. This is definitely probably got this about four or five years ago, but I believe that should be the same important, not close enough because of that and we'll pop that off of there real quick and swap them over see if we get any better responses. Go pop the ball off of that real quick to make sure everything's in there. And yeah, sometimes stuff does not get put together like it should. That background noise is the heat. The heat's on. It's like 10 degrees out right now. Okay going down to negative 17. you know the crap. the dirt that was on there, huh? Yeah, these are not exactly the best of quality. Really decent. I'm gonna see if I can, uh, not here. Rattling looks to be okay I think everything we are missing the um, there's a plug generally that goes in here so that fuel doesn't Splash directly up when I take the other one off, I'll show you this is just like a it's called A Welch plug that goes right in here. it's not in it. Let's try a new carb. see that it chokes on. give it a couple. literally can see the Gap I don't know if you can see it, it actually pushed I give it one more, probably piss right off this way. watch it's the see the gas dripping. That's what that primer does. Uh, let's give her a little bit of throttle. make sure that throttle go all the way to idle. Can All right, try it again. I Got the linkage bound up a little bit. He's good. Correct that. but yeah. I Already hear that it's running different. Let me, uh, correct that linkage bind I'm quite sure what we got going on there. I Think the height of this might be a little bit taller? I might have to just bend that lever. you're not even looking. Yeah, looks like it's just binding in there I have to bend that tab up just a little bit to get that bind out of that that knuckle right there. Hey, bent out of here. let's see what we got. It does look like somebody did some funkiness with the linkage down here, but we'll see, see if it idles. we're good. Big difference. That's what it's supposed to do. Foreign kill and what the kill does. When you take this linkage all the way down, it grounds out on a contact right there. A little piece of wire shorts out generally. There is also a key that goes to that cover that we had off. It's a plastic key that opens up a set of contacts and when you, uh, pull the key out, it grounds together and kills. Sparks As you know, little Johnny can't start the snow blower up in the middle of the summer and cut his fingers off or take out his sister. uh I think somebody just kind of removed it because the spot is there on the cover, but it's just not uh there. or they lost the key and got pissed off and got rid of it. Where'd that cover go? Foreign all the way down. It would just shut right off, but somebody took that out of there. You can tell the print where it was all right. I'm gonna go get that choke lever bracket taken off of there I Gotta go. probably cut that screw off there that's seized up. Go find another one, we'll pop that on. You can start buttoning up the tins in the sheet metal that is on here. We'll get the uh, the transmission, a little bit of a load chest and see how that does. You see the machine wanted a new carburetor using that second Loctite Screw that stripped out came out. didn't want nothing to do with it either. I Have to even make a tire today that doesn't slowly go flat over time. I Got stuff like old cars, right? The tires are 50 years old. They'll still have air in them. This stuff. it sits for about a year. Let's go for about like five and ten. PSI They don't take very much. You actually kind of want them to squish it a little bit. no jumping around a little bit. But here's that carb that was on. Here's that Welch plug that's missing on the new one. It just kind of keeps it if the machine is bouncing around a lot. It keeps it from splashing up and coming through because they feel they don't need it anymore. One less part. I Know that drive disc has some wear on it, but we're going to do to test it is we're going to fire it up and I'm gonna put in like a first and second gear and I'm gonna hold the machine back and I should be able to spin the tires. if the tires don't spin. That means that disc is slipping uh, on the surface and it's just so wore out it's not making good contact. Let's go find out. Okay, that's fine. It's got plenty of bite left in it. Still, a lot of times when people do, we still go up. It's like a snow bank and they're they're chewing away at the snow bank and they'll leave it in like third or fourth gear. Um, it'll go. but you're you're kind of burning against the disc instead of just putting it. Yeah, think of your car, you're driving a standard transmission. You kind of want to be in the gear you're going. Do you take the clutch and slip it and get going in third and fourth gear? Yeah, probably. but you're gonna kill the clutch. Well, these are kind of the same way you want to run it in first gear. Just kind of, uh, you know, eat into the snow bank and work the lever letting it on and off like a clutch on a car. So I think everybody's looking fairly decent on this one. The uh tub's a little beat up. you can use that. Cutting Edge on the bottom I'm gonna leave it that well enough alone for now. I mean even the drive underneath doesn't really need any lube. Somebody took care of all that. I don't have any snow to run it in. Everything is just pretty much Frozen nice. The only other thing sometimes you put a load on it. it'll skip. uh, the Worm Drive that's in the front will Skip and it'll show being an issue, but it seems like it's okay. I Say we put the belly pan back on this one and we grab the other one. We throw it on the lift and see what we got. One last thing, if we kick this one. Off the Bench let's go take a quick look at the belts. It's always got the cover on. kind of screwed up that tab that covers what's on the other side of that Tab and it's missing the screw on the other end so it's quickly. uh, unthread that. Take that out of there. Just take a gander at the condition of the belts and you can see it was cutting into it because it wasn't put on the right. So I'm looking the drive belt for the Auger and I'm just looking to see you can't see it up by my hand. but I have that much travel and then it's pulling the belt in. From there it's already stopped moving and there's just a spring that's stretching out. So I have plenty of tension on this. This belt isn't in the condition to slip and I'm also just looking behind it for any cracking. You can back in here for any cracking. I don't see anything. It looks pretty good. See a little bit of you know fuzzies coming off the side of it. but I don't think that's an issue. Joey With belts on snow blowers, the I think they do it on purpose too. They'll make like a it'll be 33 and 5 16 length belt. Can you get a 33 inch belt Or 34 or 33 and a half inch belt on there? Yeah, but the life expectancy of them is really short because it's not in the window of the adjustment. Looks like somebody's already adjusted this one in. You see, right? there's a slot there. Um, you got about about two shots out of it. You'll when you first put the belt on this pull, you'll be all the way out. You have less tension on it over time. if it starts slipping on you, you adjust that in this. This has a definite uh, quite a bit more life in it. I'm gonna go check out the one for the drive which doesn't work as hard. You know to drive for the wheels. that one joint doesn't work as hard and that one actually looks pretty good. Well I Think we're gonna do too is we're just gonna go grab that pulley this one and we're just gonna go see. sometimes this bushing right down in here will fail and it'll be hard to get a good adjustment because the belt's pulling up on it. But this pulley has a capacity of moving around so you can't get a good tension on it and it seems like it's really good. It's kind of quickly for The Idler Feels like it's fine. the other one doesn't have nylon. This one just spins all the time when it's running good. I Think we're good. I'll show you that uh, spring that I'm talking about. So there's the spring right there so you can see how much that pulls. This is the lever that's going forward that's moving the idler pulley in. You can see where it stops moving, that's full tension on the belt. and then the rest of it is. You know, spring that's moving foreign that'll start stalling out on you. It'll be just that you're not getting enough tension on the Belt Too much information. how many people are watching this that have there's never going to deal with a snow blower, just gonna hang out. they're gonna pop that cover. I'm gonna find another screw for that and stop that from happening. Well foreign. number two. Somebody's definitely been in this one more than. uh, get an inline fuel filter with a bunch of different hoses on it. missing the pull start. no pull starting in it. Wheel looks like a sitting on an angle. I Actually both of them do. don't they like that one and that one are are racked. This one might need a little bit more love. Not sure what this is going on. It's like probably I should have been on to there for a kill. It's like it's broken off here. They got pissed and broken off trying to figure out where I wouldn't run. This one has a key setup in it should be able to come out. This is a not the same as what I was talking about earlier. The other one's just like a plastic one and I'll just like a lawnmower tractor key. My guess this one's probably a little older. Oh, we got it going off here. Looks like they ran over some brush. It does have regular shear pins in it. I'll see if they caught up. Got into the weeds. Yes, let's go. Sheer pins in it. That looks pretty good. It doesn't look all banged up and bent up. About the same amount of wear on the Cutting Edge on the bottom. Yes, both of these were set up for going on a nice paved driveway and not gravel. All right. let's um, can we put Power to this one? We don't have a cord to turn it, so let's go put the extension cord on real quick. Hit the button and see how she sounds I See, it does. if anything sounds good. Oh, it's got a bad starter here. What sounds like he's got no teeth left in it. All right, So we know that's an issue. and they had something primer bulb was missing that was here. that's not on it. All right. let's go flip it up on this belly. take the belly pan off. Actually, while it's like this, first, let's get that front cover off. We'll take a quick look under here see if anything's going on. Same thing they missed it on this one too. It's not locked in, at least it consistent and we get that out of the way. We'll look in there and don't take the belly pan off. This one needs a little bit of love, that's you. Prizes are in this one. Yeah. Cutting into the cover too for the same reason feels okay I Do feel that front bushing like we talked about in the other one. Hey, this one's definitely got some more wear on it. If you're gonna look right down in there, you can actually see that whole pulley lift it up my hair I'm not saying that it's bad, but it does have some play in it. I Don't see any shoe marks in the belt and it's all all the way forward on the adjustment too drive belt. One quick spin doesn't look too bad either. All right, let's get her up on the belly. see what's kind of going on with those you know those racked? Wheels and if it shows up on camera? I Definitely yeah. pricey on that one. more. how much is leaning? Not quite sure what's happening here, but they're like it's it's the wheels themselves. They're like I don't know. let's get that pan off creators there. but you see the difference in the drive and the one to the other. You both have that plastic gear on you. look at the difference in the teeth on that one compared to the other one. The other ones are pointed worn out so much. the disc looks decent. Plot this side down. see anything The bushings I Thought the bushings were going to be gone and that was the play in the axle. It's not I Think you just bolted together I'm like did the center of the wheel just like egg out I Guess it'll work, but it's I don't know. Seems kind of sloppy, almost like they didn't fit. They didn't care, they just drilled through it and bolted them on. but somebody else did that. Something else, you know, took them from off of something else. A quick peek how everything else looks. It's pretty good. Let's get the Um. looks. Actually somebody put a new carb on there too. It's adjustable and also it's got an air fuel mix on the bottom of the jet to adjust and see somebody put a new carb on it. Maybe had run issues and they're trying to fix it. Also gave up when the uh the pull start broke and then the electric start broke. Let's get this. uh, we'll lay it back down. We'll get the pull start cover off. We'll take a look at the flywheel on the starter. I Think the pull start off first. we gotta take um to take this tin off. we have to take the cylinder head bolts out. I Thought that's a big deal. if you don't need to, let's um it. Generally it's the starter gear that burns up. We might be able to take a peek from inside here. We get this. pull start off, pull starts got to come off anyway to do the Rope Let's see what we got. the spring broke. A lot of times the spring will break in these tabs, these little notches that come out and grab it. Do you have any uh, you gotta crank it in the spindle. the spring will go burn. okay. see if it'll return. That seems like it's okay. We'll start. Just broke the handle off the end of it. The Rope came out starter. see if it's okay. I am looking. Let's go a little. if you can see it right there. that gear looks pretty. There you go you can see it you see it. up there. you go. That's uh. I Don't see any teeth missing. It looks like it's just metal on metal. Let's um, let's hit the button a little bit. see what it does? I don't see anything obviously that's tearing itself up quick. Make sure there's nothing jammed in there. I'll see if it's a even spins that is terrible. Um, it will chase that a little bit later. At least it does spin. Let's look into all the other parts of it and see if it's got a good engine that kind of thing. Before we, you know, start fixing those things. Let's um, put a spark checker on it like we did the other one and we'll see if we have any spark. Kind of go from there and see if it fires and do all the same stuff we did on that one. Uh, to the engine. see? yeah, somebody put a new carb on it, lost a screw and put a different one in. I Don't see anything funky about it guys. just got the adjustment on it too. All right, let's get a spark checker on it. Yeah, six make so much noise you can't even hear if it's got compression we get to I guess a little darker than the other one. Huh? He's got a whale in it. Where's our checker? Let's see what we get. It's got spark. Oh, it sounds awful foreign ER on The inside. the uh, the body of the starters grinding itself apart. They might have some other ones upstairs, but that's again getting ahead. Let's get that plug out of there and uh, we'll dribble a little fuel on this one. See what it does. Foreign plug goes like tight, moves tight loose. I might have bad threads. It's a weird plug. I don't think that's the correct one to be in there. What's up? Throw around there real quick. make sure that it still. Sparks Of course. yeah. I don't think it's the right plug though. Give her a little bit of fuel. and generally what I'm trying to do is if I put fuel in it and it chugs over and fires. We know it's got compression and we know that like the flywheel didn't Shear pain or anything and it's kind of functioning like it should. All right, Can you see? Let me back you up. a little kind of on top of the engine. Let's see what we get. Sounds like a blown head gasket down to it. Let's um, see if we can dump a little down the throat of it. It could be around the plug but I don't think so. It looks like it's uh, pushing gas out the side of the head because that would that should have fired and ran do one more time. Yeah it's running, but it's a kind of weird sound like it's got a blown. It looks like see right there. It's in there right there. It's wet. It's like it's pushing out where the head gasket is. I think I think that's what the issue is on. It also says it's getting a little bit of wet there. Let's um, dissect a little. We gotta get the I like to get that cover off anyway. I Think we may want to look at that starter fly with maybe just sounds like it's actually a little bit better. It might have been just so much rust that was on it. Let's get some of this apparatus pulled away from it and uh I have a feeling we got probably a blown head gasket. I think a quarter inch drive's got enough balls to find out. Foreign that was barely tight. Fairly tight. That one's tight. Spit out the work the washer too. Yeah, so the gas tank should be able to just lift right off. We got all the way foreign pull to the side there and these two should come off his way back. I Think we could sneak that out of there? so we got oh God Play Well, yeah it's it's pissing out all through here. You see where it's been burning through that's been doing that for a while so that's what the death of this one was. A blown head guys. Go! Just not tight all the way. Let's go take a better look at it. Yeah he is burnt so you can see right there where the break is right through it and it's not even attached to the other side anymore. That's what happened. I wonder if somebody took the gas tank off and just never really tightened it because generally what happens is um, the heck I Guess you don't blow unless they overheat because and you know what happened, you lose tension between the two of them. They overheat that everything kind of expands and then the head gasket blows out. Generally that's to do like a mouse Nest or something I don't see any remnants of that. So I think maybe somebody took the gas tank off on this side and just never tighten those bolts up and glue the gasket out. Now the question is, do I have one for it? Go take a quick peek I I think I only have one for the smaller ones but I'm not giving up hope yet. I Got a pretty good stash of stuff. you got a bunch, but these I think are for the smaller one I'm trying to visit. we get that lucky. Is that it? no way? No, no. too short on this side. I Was thinking it was nope close. Let's um. I'm gonna go look around a little bit more. Uh, it's late at night so there's no place for you to go grab one right now. But yeah and get one through the mail. I'm gonna go hunt a little bit more I'm gonna take this off and bring it with me I Thought possibly we had a blown up engine I don't think it's gonna be this same style. you know, worst case music. Steal the head gasket off of it if it's good. Ideally you want a new one, but hmm I may have trashed it I thought I'd taken it apart though. tell me what I do is I kind of hold on to them or just such occasions like this. Nope. I'll keep looking I don't have a head gasket for it. but let's keep going on the assessment. Take a peek at that starter setup. get that out of there. Let's see we got going on there. it doesn't look I'm gonna listen to it. the starter itself needing some lube. Yeah, plus it looks like it's blowing off all the rust. It's not like the mag was hitting and I don't see many chomped off teeth because that has an older machine. Everything's metal on metal. Nope, no plastic in it. so see that starter could probably use probably the Lube on it. We should be able to, uh, look at the plug wire. Yeah, it was blowing out. it was cooking it. Yeah, be quite repair that with some um, shrink tubing. It's like it's the outer jacket, not the inner. Let go. let's um, should we plug into it And it's been cooking for a while. I'm hoping nothing goes flinging at us. Just go give her a little bit of a crank and just kind of give her a bump first. Throw some lube on that, see if it shuts up a little bit just trying to ID where it's coming from. If it's right on these teeth or not, let me kick you over just a hair so you don't get it flung in your eyeball. that shouldn't be it. I might just have so much rust in between. I think she's lost her gasket there I think when it's indexing out the starter, it's got so much Play It's kind of skipping over it because right now I can make it skip a tooth. see how it's rocking? Yeah, so it's definitely in the the Bendix of the starter. I may again I may have another starter for us. It may not even have to screw with that ahead of herself so we know we need a pull start handle. We need a starter. We need a head gasket. uh. I'm gonna quickly. let's go lift it up a little bit. I'm gonna go and take that bolt out of one of those Wheels real quick. let's take a peek inside there, see what's going on possibly you can see I Have a feeling it's all egged out just in one spot though. Foreign. Got a big shoulder on the inside of it where it wore. he put it down the bench. it'll get a Lego look at it I Don't know if it had a plastic bushing that wore out. You can see, like down lower there's something there. Let's go pop that plastic cap off the other side of the axle and see if that because that's the only distance it travels. Doesn't look like the metal is a little egged out right there though. Let's go see if that plastic sleeping. possibly. Maybe we could just shift it if that that axle's only going to there anyway, right? Yeah, it only travels that far. Anyway, let's go pop that Center up. I Don't think so I think it's um I think it's I think it's a plastic rim. Let's get a magnet real quick. Are you just plastic and the plastic just wore itself out instead of being Steel I I Thought I was steel right here with the shininess of it. Yeah, plastic. Imagine that. Only thing I could think of. They did that because like a lot of times, it's real common because these will weld themselves to the shaft. they'll rust up and they'll bind up. You can't get them apart. Maybe that was their idea trying to get around it. Yeah, so it's plastic. What? I thought was a bushing a plastic down below is it's just the rest of it. That's where the axle stopped and it didn't wear itself out. I Don't know. It's kind of thin to sleeve I Don't know if you can do anything about it I Think it'll hurt any man. You probably use it the way it is. It's just that it's going to be floppy, you know? Hmm yeah. I'm gonna grab magnet. there's your problem. Yeah, plastic. No kidding. Not quite sure what the battle plan was with that. It almost looks like it's steel doesn't it though? And I better tell you you can see it. It's like no rush, no imperfections on it. Hmm, that's the next day. I Was able to locally find a head gasket full start kit. but I think before we start dealing with that stuff, let's go deal with that where we got it flipped up in the wheel off of there. see if we get rid of some of that sloppiness that's in there. I Got a roll of like brass shim stock. My guesses: maybe we can cut a piece of that off and wrap the section take a little bit of a play out of it. If we were able to get that, we can drill a hole through, put the bolt back in, and at least I'll have metal on metal contact instead of trying to, you know, rub apart. I Think we'll probably be able to cut it with scissors. We're gonna find out. Here's where it goes crazy. It's cut off like that section of it and I'll try to let me tie that back up before I lose it. so we need that much I think we just we'll just rip it right in half. It doesn't have to go right to the end, right? It's not playing well. We're gonna be better off wrapping it around the axle and let's try it. Maybe put it around the axle and we'll put like a uh host clamp to try to draw tight and hold it. We can run the wheel over it. We don't have to take it back off. So I probably should have sprayed that metal with oil. Let's see if it'll shrink up. It might just bind. Let's go. Let me. uh, undo. It doesn't want to slip on itself to close up. You know what? I mean I Think we'll wipe that down with some oil and hopefully it'll try to curl up. It's hard to do it by your hand. Joke there. Let's see if that'll you. That'll do it foreign. Get the inside to spin before. I grab that with tweezers and maybe try to spin that inner foreign foreign a little bit thinner. Not sure. Probably should move that closer to the end too. I think I might have found the winning combination I took some of that off, cut it. but I Started in the wheel first and then let it stick halfway out so it kind of tapered a little bit to get it. Let's go tap it on see if it'll work. Yeah, remember. I Gotta line those holes up because they got to drill it pretty close. I know it's the same as what's on that side. Keep driving that on foreign bolts after that. So I'm going to run it on the rest of the way and I got a long drill bit I'm going to run it through and I'll put the bolt back in. If that works, we'll do it on the other side. It's pretty good. To me, you think it ain't doing I'm not doing that. That's it. Drilled it out. one down one to go, get that one taken care of and give her a little bounce test rather than it was because if we could jump to the top of the engine again, take a wire wheel and clean off that surface and the cylinder head and just make sure there's no nothing funky going on. Generally it doesn't just kind of blows the head gasket out, but you never know. Scotch Brite wheel thank you. see if that fits. Looks like the right one to me. Good. I Gotta take the Uh head bolts and clean them up on the wire wheel so that you get a good torque on them. Take a little crap on on them. You gotta prep the gas tank at the same time too. There's a uh, it's aluminum. There's a little deflector that goes on here in the little tab generally breaks off and it gets lost. I'm trying to retrieve that looked at the tank. It looks pretty decent inside. Other than you know, the piece that's in there, it looks pretty clean. I'm gonna blow it out with air before we put it on, but this has to get ready too because it has the head bolts. and of course that little disc is about the exact same size as this opening and you're probably saying to yourself, we're using, just take the gas can and flip it over and Shake It Out Oh, that would be a really good idea except the fact, look at that. the gas cap gas tank has the same size opening and there's a shovel that's here. Well it's the shoulder on the inside too, goes down just about as far so you can't just like line it up and shake it out. But we got it. Now that is supposed to go like that. but the little tint always kind of breaks off the top of the tank and it's just. it's a vent for the gas cap and it kind of holds that seal up on there. So I'm more concerned about the seal falling off. What? I'm gonna go do, just flip it over. I'm probably going to take like a hot iron and melt that tit and push it down so this doesn't fall off so the seal doesn't fall off. Foreign, foreign that up the tins. got to go on and again the gas tank goes on in place. I'll put a piece of shrink tubing over that outer jacket that blew off of that. The inner still looks okay, but also the starter. Let's go take a peek at that. Like we said. I I Possibly may have another one that's good for it and we just swap it over and kind of see what's happening instead of having to cover on it. Let's go shopping here. Foreign 's wasted. I Had the gears cooked on that one. Looks like it doesn't. it? Not quite sure. Bring that downstairs. Uh, possibly. You know you can always. maybe take the guts I Don't know what's inside. definitely looks like that one. It's off a bigger engine. Still may work though. Let's uh, stick it in the Vise and make sure she does what's supposed to we get. Banner Well there's that. Seems lame to me. Hmm, it's looking back at the original one. It almost looks like it's okay, but it's like coming out too far and it's actually coming off of the the Bendix like it has too much travel to come out. I Don't know how these are held on? I'm gonna go experiment with the junkie. Well, we'll put a little bit of heat on that, see if that comes off and what's inside there, there might be a clip or a spacer that's gone. It's like this one. You can see how much that one travels compared to. you know that looks like it's coming right off the end of it. Or you can, maybe even change that right out. That's what's inside. Probably like a valve stem. You push it down. it's got a keeper on it. Let's go take a peek at the ticket that's on there. That's good. Different setup. that one pushes back. that one does not. I think it's just GM on there. Let's hit it with a hammer. It looks like it's gonna be a pain. Yeah I See it on and off of there. Hmm you think the chances are that gear will clear and come out oh so close? I'm about to start and Pull It Away a little bit. Top two are at the bottom are kind of like slides I don't know if you want to foreign to it I think I'm going to cause more damage. Can we just kind of punch it away a little bit? There you go. Hmm. foreign teeth are wasted on there. Do you think this piece is supposed to be bonded to that? I'm gonna go pop it off the other one. take a quick look. So this is that crappy one that wasn't turning well gear off of it. and here's this one. So this has a lot of slop on that collar and this one. It's pretty tight if you take it out of there a little bit. it does not have the play that that one did. So let's just try putting this one on there and see how this function. I'm gonna go clean this up on the wire wheel a little bit. I think that's what it is I think the bushing on that one is just egged out inside the area of that of the shoulders beat on the other one. We'll make one going out of the two. No, there's nothing on. let's go spin that motor and just listen to it. That might be a problem. Smoke and dust is coming out of it I don't know if I can get to it to get any Lube on that back bushing. I'm gonna shoot a little bit more down the front but the back ones we need to get to I can't get that unbolted because we're going to snap those two I'm not, you know. I'm trying not to dig a hole, possibly take these off while it's on there. I Kind of doubt it nice if there was a Lube Port to go into it, but uh, let's go throw some lube on the front one and we'll just spin it a little bit see if it's gonna survive. You actually see it shooting out of there. whip my finger a little foreign. quick. Well, well. I'm kind of contemplating whether you want to screw with that anymore. Sometimes Some of the starters on the bottom ones, they have slots. You can lift it up out of it. I Don't believe this is that style. Is it under screws? you can get hard to get to um, you see when it kicks out there? Whatever it's I don't know if the Armature is running into something in there. so I think we're just gonna put it back together and hope for the best and keep an eye on another you starter laying around. Plus we don't even know how this thing's going to turn out. we told Pile of crap. Uh, so I'm gonna go piece all that stuff back together. Okay, because it's moving along kind of running out of time. So yeah, fast forward things a little bit well. I still think this is the one off the other one I still think it's the starter is going to Goose but I think that play being taken out of there is definitely going to make a big difference. At least it won't skip teeth I'm hoping. definitely tell that somebody was in there. took a picture of it before I took it apart and I think it was this one and this one had no washers underneath it and then they were back with the gas tank is but you can see where it's got double brackets. that's the difference between. those are the spaces for the washer so that's not supposed to have any and all these are so that's definitely why that head gasket blew. Somebody was in there before. Just put stuff back in the wrong place. I'm gonna run them down. we'll give them a click with the torque wrench I Brought him in by hand before they're not that particular. As long as they're you know, somewhat tight. The uh I think the spec is 16 and a half. You can kind of zigzag them. Well, other than the pole star, we still have to address. it's pretty much buttoned up. Let's get that bowl off. Although it's a new carb, it's been sitting. so let's give ourselves an idea what's happening here before this cover goes on. Come on, be nice. Doesn't look bad. It's got some crap floating around and you can see like fuel turned into I believe that is stabilizer. that does that. a little that little bit of debris I'm gonna go rinse that out and I'm gonna put some fuel in the tank I'll let it flush through the line. All the lines have been replaced so I'm not going to screw with them either. Yeah, that would have got it. that would have looked that would plug the Jets Eventually that's gonna turn that gas on. she's Tinkles out there we go. it's looking pretty clean. I'm gonna go throw that bowl back on. All right, so it does not have a primer bulb. Turn that choke on and let's go see what the electric start does. Actually, it's going to Goose real bad, but let's see. let's uh, get it off a Full Throttle too finally grab it up. we'll adjust to the air fuel mix recover. You're a little choke. you just want to find that sweet spot. There's an idle mixture on this one too foreign. Probably gonna get it with my fingers. We'll tweak it again after it runs for a little while warms up. A C3's decent. Let's not do a little bit of function test on some stuff. I'll put you back in the stand. we'll clamp. now. we'll look at the front auger and off foreign run through the gear. Foreign? It's not. You know, they're not just the way they are. I I Don't suspect there's any failure in here. They get beat up a little bit. The balance of the impeller in the back is knocked uh out of whack a little. I don't see anything terrible. Looks like somebody went and modified it with the rubber on the end of them. So I was probably throwing the balance off just a hair. That's a trick you could do to help, um, improve the throw capacity. It gets rid of that last little air gap it's rubbing here. rub and that just takes care of that last little space you can see a little bit extra added. uh, momentum thrown out of there. All right? I'm gonna open the door, let it air out a little bit. I'm going to button up some of the other stuff on. this is just a couple little things you need to kind of finish. There is no ground wire going to the shut off that will work once you know the wires attached to it. I had to come over when I shut it off I just kind of grounded this out and it shut off. It does not have the kill switch. let me get rid of that the pin that you pull out of it I'm not going to worry about that as long as we can shut it off with that part of it. And the other thing is we don't have a primer bulb I do not have one to put any that normally would just go to that Port right there and you saw it on the other snow blower how it works. so at some point that probably should be chased. but not today. All right, let me knock that out. and the last thing is you just change the oil on it just fixing that wire that is on there. so that's the little terminal that was broken off in there. I Just ground one of the larger Spades to fit in there. so put that on the wire and I'll just feed that up and we should have a shut off and wires on. Let's go, just go clean. This doesn't matter, but this surface right here. that's where it has the ground on right there. I Don't know back of that so that when that comes down that grounds out. That should do it. How's any metal rainbows coming out of it? That's a good sign. Kind of nasty though. huh? I Think we got down to the last thing to fix. I Need a pair of needle nose? something that should work so the pull starts busted on this? Yeah, it looks like the whole ropes out of it. That's all that's left. I'm gonna wind this up and give her some tension. We could tweak it later from off a little. Generally you can kind of feel it by how much like if you overdo it, you can kind of feel like you're getting a little too tight and that's that's getting there right now. Let's um, you know Jam a screwdriver down it just to keep it from undoing itself times. It depends what the end of the Rope is like. This one's the one on the chintzy side should be okay though. You can, uh, heat the tip up and like curl it to a point. The idea is just try to feed it. Oh, that was too easy. Feed it through, pull it up, and tie a knot on it. Can I get it with that? Yeah, just gonna do a double knot. Foreign makes a mass to it so it doesn't pull out. Top of the jokes, Bear down a little bit and the other end just gotta do the same thing for the handle. Might be a little too long. It's a universal one. It's kind of meant for a little bit. Everything we'll see through a couple of quick mounts in that one probably be undoing that. one sweater knocks back in decent if I if I wanted to go a little bit tighter. what you can do is you just pull up on the Rope you can actually just like walk it around one more Circle that gave you another loop attention so you can kind of tweak it from there. Do you think it's gonna be all right? I think it had a like a big D-ring style handle on it but I don't have that? So I'm gonna just go. uh, trim that back a little bit I think we'll be good. Let's go put that back on. let's see what our final assessment is. Hey I think we're all put back together? let's give her a fire up on the pull start. foreign works on the key I'd say that worked out pretty good. Well guys, that brings us to the end of the program and uh, just to kind of wrap up on these. Both of them are fairly decent machines. Everyone's are fairly good machines. They're uh yeah, not commercial, but as far as like a residential one, it's kind of the staple to go for. I'm not sure if these are box store ones or if they were dealer setups. Some of the plastic parts in them kind of make me want to steer towards maybe the Box Store I'm just not sure. uh, both of them that one I would say it says the Flathead and there's an overhead. The flat is probably like 1990s and the overrated one's probably like, you know, early 2000s is my guess. Uh, we got about what 20 bucks in each. One of them bought a carburetor for that one and we ended up putting a head gasket and a pull start kit and that and oil and that's really about it. Everything else we just kind of worked with, you know, shimming and grinding and just you know, beating stuff back together worked out pretty good. Uh, both of us. it would be going to new homes I have people that are in need of machines so I'm going to be giving both of them away. uh, if I had more time I kind of detail them a little bit, get my fingerprints off the wheels and stuff. but I am just out of time. it is 15 degrees out I Want to go home I Got to edit this video like the pellet stove and get something to eat. So with that guys, thank you all for hanging out, doing some wrenching, bringing stuff back to life on the cheap and we'll do it again sometime soon. Both of these, you know, more stuff can be done on these and you know, cutting edges and adjusting the shoes and possibly putting belts and stuff on. But as they sit, they should run for a couple of Seasons just as they are. So with that, all right, I'll see you later.