we got this toro riding mower for free due to an engine failure. the last video we tore it down to find out why? in this video lets put it back together missing half the crank shaft and see what happens,

Side we'll take a peek see if we see anything, that's totally fried right away, looks like it was probably a thrust washer that might be the governor right there or that might be a uh, a decompression valve i'll, see one on the other side. Yeah, let's go grab a light and look down inside. I don't see any blueing on the crank. I don't see any immediate telltale.

What was here something was right there, that's not there anymore. What did that go on to so that fell right in this lines. Right up in this groove right here and it's got some hammering that looks kind of suspect. Doesn't it like a counterbalance shaft and maybe whatever pin was in there? It seems like it fell out.

I don't know if that was it huh and we'll go grab a light. We'll take a peek down inside see. We can see, let's go uh a little bit of picking with a magnet a little fishing expedition. So that's the piece that's set on the top for the governor just kind of go plopping around.

I got something. I got a lot of hamburger, it's just a bunch of magnetic mush see if you can find any more bigger pieces. I got ta get you to look that way here. Let's see what that spring.

Looking thing was that we saw magnet what's going on everything else, but a magnet or a bolt. What's that something with reds on it more shrapnel, i would definitely say: that's, probably the whatever used for bearing might be better off a little little gripper pliers. You know, can i just go ahead and grab it. My fingers yeah.

I definitely say that's what it did. Let me really squish that out huh. I wonder if that was like flat just just on this surface and it got so hot it like literally rolled the corner and did that or did it have a lip on? It probably put it back together and get an idea anything else swimming down in there, a bunch of metal there's a whole big, something there. I got something good hold on get this out of the way.

What's that your battery's flashing, we're gon na go as long as we can we'll just throw that in oil pan, let's even get this big piece out there, that is like a lever, find a bunch of more crap going in it's not metal. That's why, like a rubber, pickup tube that might be for the oil mist, the oil pick up to hey guys and how's it going hey we're going to continue on this tractor that was donated to us that ended up having a locked up engine and on the Last video we tore it apart kind of found out what happened did a uh, a guess of what we thought happened when i was putting the parts away, i kind of rethought it a little bit. I wonder again this will be. I haven't seen any comments yet because you haven't even seen the first video anyway uh see how many people may have uh done a better job of detecting what happened than what i did.

I think i was close, but anyway, let's get into it see if we can figure out a little bit more. What happened and possibly let's see if we can just throw it back together enough, so it can run. That's a guess, we'll try! It see what happens so in a previous video we're looking at what's left of the engine, the block that is sitting in there on a previous video, i figured the oil pump created oil pressure from the bottom journal and worked its way up through the crank. As i started looking at the pieces, i do feel it does that a little on the different side.
The pump is actually driven by one of the camshafts and i believe it draws oil up through the cam shaft goes through the top of the uh two cam uh. What do you want to call them? Sleaze rods, i'll show you in case it'll, make more sense. So here's the upper part of the case - and you can see that's where these two guys ended up one here and one here. So i believe oil pressure came up through this cam fed through this channel went into the oil filter, probably came back through fed the crank and then fed the other cam on the other side, and then you know from the crank the crank has holes through it.

Get you over there. The crank has holes through it. Here's the top get these weights off of here, so it would have got pressurized through here, fed it here, fed it here and fed down here and then the bottom bearing right there, and then we just kind of dribbled back into the case again. So i had it wrong.

I was kind of thinking that it fed oil to the crank to the bottom first hole and fed everything backwards through the assembly. When i was looking at the bottom of the case, there, though i did not see any feed that feeds oil in that direction, so hence the the backwards rebuttal of what i thought. As far as the actual failure for those who haven't seen part one - i mean what happened: is it has a set of flyweights that counterbalance the uh piston and connecting rod as it goes around, but usually on a crankshaft there's just a fixed weight. Get these out of the way, usually you have the connecting rod and then right over here would be a large weight and a large weight.

It just kind of balances out the mass. That's on this side for this. For some reason, they have these two big counter, balancing weights that are on there and they were keyed to the cover to stay in a straight position as they spun around there's a key right up in here - and this is what this was. This kept this whole mass.

This whole mass straight in line. This is what broke on us and failed on us. It looks like it spun a bearing burned up a bearing down here, but what i think failed on it was. If you look at the size of the bolt on top, you see how it tapers down.

This is where that went up through, so that would have been sitting there like this. You can see the play. That's in there. You would think that they would have made that solid all the way up, because this sat right there, but because there's that play in it, i think this got some rocking back and forth.

Don't forget! This is keyed into that that case right there and is uh keeping these in a straight line with everything else you can see. The case is all beat up, you can see. The case is all beat up where it looks like that. Probably let go against is still just a guess on my part, i think that let go but it kind of kept everything keyed together until this finally threaded its way out of there.
But what happened was on this bottom one. Sorry, it's already on there, this bottom one burned up, there's the bearing that was in it. It just spit it out, burned it up into dust. The engine was locked up because one of these was able to turn sideways and it just jammed against the case.

We were able to take the engine, turn it backwards and it was turning free again. So that's what! Finally, you know locked it up. Where was it going with this uh? I think this burned up, because once that bolt broke it allowed it to rack sideways and when it did, it no longer was floating on a cushion of oil. It was touching on a pinch point and at that point it just i think at that point is what caused it to burn up i'll show you on the case again, let's grab a light.

You can see in the bottom of that case. Let's get you a little less light? Wait it started to chew up. You can see it was sitting sideways due to the uh. Let's get you you can see where there's an indent all the way around where it was racked just spinning around down there anyway.

I still think the bolt broke, but i think oil pressure was fed from the other direction, so possibly an oil issue. What i would like to do, maybe we'll do - is we'll dump some oil inside here we'll put a drill on this and we'll spin. This and we'll see if we get oil coming up through the center of that. If that's good, then we know what what didn't starve oil, because it was oil and it's a little low in oil, but it wasn't low enough where the oil pump was not under the oil.

I said a court should do it, steer it to the side. Okay, we just don't want to get make sure that oil pump is covered. That's all, let me go grab a drill and we're going to spin it by hand actually, so it should be on this one. One way he's going to make bubbles now he's making bubbles going the wrong way.

If we turn this yep there it goes now. I can't turn it anymore. It's oily all right, so that's got oil pressure that should work. So all this is burned up.

So i think we're just gon na get rid of these again we're just having fun here, we're not trying to make it for longevity, and what we'll do is we'll come up with a welder, we'll weld up that little hole in that little hole so that oil Pressure does not squeeze out of them that it still does its normal path through here and the governor's burned up. It has a a gear, one of the gears just smashed, pretty bad, we're going to try hitting it with a file, see if we can uh fix that enough to make it run, i'm going to push the oil out of it. So you can get a weld on it. If i can shoot out the other areas watch your eyes, i should do it.
It's gon na take us over to the wire wheel, real, quick and just kind of clean up this surface right here. This is where it's kind of uh lays down against for support, and you can see it's somewhat called up already, so i transferred some material. We just get a little bit that cleaned off, see how much that wants to fight us. We had a floor jack taking it out.

I probably should take a dremel open that lip up a little bit. I should have done that point oil in huh or just make sure it's clear and give her in good. Let's see if we can get the connecting rod reconnected and there was no damage whatsoever on the connecting router or the cap that didn't seem to have any issue. I'm gon na be curious if it does run how bad it shakes it's gon na shake like crazy, but uh.

That's the fun of doing what we're doing right. Let's go get the capo bolt that on a little bit earlier. All right! So don't tell anybody good! It's definitely binding more than i wanted to. I took the cap and flipped it over.

I never marked it when i took it apart, because i didn't really expect it to go back together, so we need top dead center, so we're gon na get it around and straight up and down. So the piston is all the way up right about there. We got to get the two gears on. Actually we got ta go fix that one gear.

First, don't we, you guys have a little triangle, uh file that would fit down in there, but i do not we're just gon na try to get rid of the where it's not needed. I think that was gon na take us a month and a day. Actually, it's like a bunch of the teeth thick i hit there huh you can see. Those are a little offset too.

I think we're gon na have to go, get ourselves a uh cutting wheel, we'll just zip back where it's not needed. Hmm, oh wow, hey! You think i think it'll mush its way through there huh it's got a key right there. We want to go two dots up, that'll just slide down in there good, and i guess we got ta line up to those two coming off for the lifters. Get a pin in that one.

I see a hole for a pin in this one, and i do remember seeing the pin that is over there, because you wouldn't want the gear just to drop down to oblivion right. It's got to ride on something yeah. That's not it that's a pin from the governor. Can we use it? Does this shaft spin, like the other one yeah, it looks like it does huh i could maybe be in the bottom down there.

We take a magnet kind of splash around for us. You can find it see what else you might get us some other treasures too. We got a chunk that we got the pen a little bit of metal. Look good he's, got the right, pin, okay, we're not putting that governor stuff back and it's all trashed.

So there's not gon na be anything controlling the rpm we're just gon na have to rev it by hand. This is never going to be a functioning engine for this tractor again. It just has too much damage to try to buy all the parts and get another used motor cheaper, and you know, like i said on the other video you don't have to go with this engine, you can go with any single cylinder will fit in here. The chassis has a bunch of different bolt patterns for it, it's good those gears.
This looks like they haven't, set up to run either way you can use them for an intake or an exhaust. This one is being used as the exhaust, because it has the decompression valve in it so and what a decompression valve is. It holds the exhaust valve open a little bit longer right there little cam and what it does is it it bumps. The compression drops the compression down and then, as soon as the engine spins up this weight comes outward and it becomes out of play, doesn't do anything anymore, but when you're trying to start it, it gives an easier start.

You're not trying to fight going over the hill. The exhaust is exiting this side of the engine, here's a little key for it right there, so we need that dot to fit line up with that. So we want we want. What do we want? We want.

Probably could have left that one off and maybe drop these in first, let's go find out how this works for us, because i got ta be able to rotate that shaft underneath to get the drop in and i got ta get it on the cam yeah. Let's do that, let's um deal with the two cams first and then we could drop that in after we line them up that way, we can kind of spin these into place. What's the you got to get is so you're trying to assemble it, where it's in this location, not pushing push pushing pushing on the valve drop down then drop down onto the pin too. Will we turn on there? There we go now we're in so yeah.

So we could rotate that one unlock it and which one was the one that had the damage this one yeah right there. Let's do the same as the one that increase the oil pressure, something like that there you go and that one's going to be intake. So we want that one roughly about there and that one roughly about there, you can fine tune them as we drop this down. That's off the tooth! Here's that one that one's off a tooth too, okay, think we're good.

You agree that should work out for us and i think this one had a thrust washer sitting on top something like that holding the guts down all right. So now we need the top cover anything else. We need to drop in there again the governor's not going to go in the governor faced downward on this and that's all blown apart, so we're gon na not bother with any of that. I'm gon na leave whatever there is for gaskets in their place.

So whatever pieces that are on the other half will just kind of line up to each other, i'm not getting fancy here. I think we're good right see anything. I'm not a total hack, we'll wipe a little bit of the dirt off. Then we leave whatever gaskets.
There are right where they are see if they do the best to kind of seal themselves back up again yeah this isn't going to be in there there's not going to be any loss of any pressure or anything there. That's not going to bother anything. I think we're good go plop that on there see how this works out for us not like that. It's not! I want to put in the wrong hole.

Hopefully those cams kind of drop in you know yeah man closer trying to get we're hanging up on those we're, probably about an eighth, a cheap show. It's probably just the locating pin okay get out there turn it. It still turns good go, throw a bunch of bolts in it starter wrong nuts, you that's more like it now stuff will reach what it should our key back in for the flywheel. It feels like it's going to need a love tap and our flywheel.

I said that weird, i just dropped it in a weird angle. We took it apart last time, so you could turn it don't look. I could take the coil off to get it but being lazy. We can get underneath it.

I think we need to bump up our game a little there. We go. I think we're good enough to spin it. We don't need plugging it.

Let's go spin, it see what it sounds like. The carb is just it's not it's attached yet so you can lock the brake pedal down wherever the lock is somewhere on here should be a lock for this pedal. Do we get just holding it? I could already feel the engine kind of doing. One of these throw the plug in it see if we get a little bit of compression that we don't have to go, adjust the valves after all, the melee that went on watch it perfectly fine i'll leave the spark off the first section.

Just listen to it see if we get a a good, uh compression thumb to it good, it's got compression all right. What do we got? The carb tend to plug up, throw that in and then we got the carb set up. It's all still floating over here. Let's get this pushed back down, i think we need the cover for that.

This has to get hooked up. This is the fuel shut off, so that wire has to when the key turns off. There's a solenoid inside the carburetor does not allow any fuel to flow, and that's what this wire does right here. So as soon as you kill the key there's a plunger that goes up and shuts the fuel supply off, so it will not run unless that sees power.

Normally, the cover takes up a bunch of room for the threads. I'm gon na throw a couple of nuts on there to take up the space. Now we have no throttle no choke. None of that is going to be functioning.

The truck will probably function but we're gon na let this stuff flap over here. It's not there's no internals for the governor, so there's nothing to work the throttle. We should probably do something, though, to make sure that it's not on full throttle uh. What can we do to try to mitigate that? Let's grab it with our fingers, how's that i think we would be good to go run it here.
The kill wire is on there, so it should shut off with the key. That's going to fall, let's back you up away from the action. So, what's your thoughts, what do you think is going to happen? You think it's going to run, i think it'll run. I think it's gon na shake itself to death, though let's go find out.

I don't know how long it will run for choke see if you could work two of these at the same time sounding a little raspy but uh it stayed together. That's the prize. I thought she was just gon na grenade fairly quickly battery's a little dead too. All right, let's go get something to uh, tie the throttle back a little bit we'll let her idle and just kind of check it out.

A little yeah that was fun took that whole plate right off just ran the spring right across here to hold the throttle back so right. Now it's against idle. Let's go: take a screwdriver, we'll bump that throttle up just a little bit you're a little bit higher rpm yeah, we'll give her. I don't know, half a turn.

We won't it's probably shaking so bad. We won't be able to adjust it when it's running. Let's see what we get now, actually we got to fix that brake pedal. I don't know what happened over there.

I think something bounced off linkage-wise. They made it go full forward. Yeah that might be an issue. I know we could do we'll just get rid of the kill wire all together.

I know it's gon na crank or not, though i'm gon na find out right now. So we have no kill. Let's see what it does not crank. Yeah.

Okay, i got ta fix that all right, no throttle, i'm gon na probably have to fire the choke. Maybe to get the run. Let's go find out. I don't know if the shaking is showing up.

I don't know if the shake shows up on the camera. It's pretty good, like a harley wow, no idea not as bad as i would think, though, so so so all right, i got ta go clean. The lens i get too much oil on it. Well, that might help things a little bit.

I was like it was just a breather for the crank case, but i'm like oh yeah now with the oil fill plug that might help things out a little bit, they're, really not terrible. I thought it was going to shake a lot. I mean it shakes bad, but i thought it was going to shake to the point where it's ridiculous, like the thing is going to vibrate off the the bench you know, but no it actually stays together. It's got oil pressure, so you know it's like it's going to go spin a rod or anything, i'm not quite sure that crank case pushing down on the case that surface down there.

If that had a bearing or not it's kind of hard to tell it was kind of hamburgered out, but i think most of it was just for that. Counterweight really seems, like the engineers got a little carried away with trying to design this one huh, there's just too much material for what it needs compared to the regular crankshaft that just has a counterbalance off of it to take the vibration out, it really seems like It was overkill, apparently you're, not needed kind of funny. You could take that out of an engine, those guys have an engine, it still runs a couple other extra pieces and hardware and bits they need those, neither right all right guys. I had some fun.
I hope you did too just uh playing along screwing around with some junk that was destined for the scrap pile again. This tractor doesn't look like it's in terrible shape, so i'll keep an eye out for another motor to probably put on this chassis. But for now i think we're going to kind of hit this one right here and call it a win for fun hi guys with that, i got ta sign off and thank you all for hanging out with me a little bit of ranching and i'll see you Soon till then, later all right, one more time. I agree you can see feed me.

You.

By Mustie

13 thoughts on “Will It Run With Less Parts? Riding Mower That Engine Blew Apart.”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Keith Glaysher says:

    Amazing! I bet 5 minutes sat on that would give you 'travelers rod' though, or perhaps get the lady of the house to cut grass, you would never get her off of it lol.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars tuloko16 says:

    How much would be the parts to fix it? Just guessing, I don’t see more then 75-100$ worth of damaged parts. Well, that was before the crankshaft welding of course.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dale Brames says:

    Was not one of kohlers better ideas. They nicknamed it the bucket engine. Had a lot of problems with bolts on cover coming loose and in turn cracking the block. Hoping to see you push it out and run wide open till it kabooms big time

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mickey Mishra says:

    Jeremy Clarkson was right that most things made in America are really only made to last about 3 years especially the cars. one thing that I do to almost all my outdoor equipment is switch it over to propane. Not only does the oil last longer but you typically get more power through propane and I know it seems weird but because it's a gas it usually combusts better than using regular carburetor

    especially if you have d pills and inclines it's actually the way to go.
    it's also a joy to use since you don't get that nasty exhaust fume smell since it burns literally all of the propane during combustion.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rex Oliver says:

    What brand motor is that?GREAT that it can work with the non essential parts removed-blown out anyway.Liked how it was shaking the dust off the tractor and grass catcher while running!Next-put the rest of the motor rotor fan and end bell back on,the mowing deck and see if it will mow?

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gerrit Max says:

    Put it all back together and sell it to someone with Parkinson's, they won't notice the shaking lol.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Apocalypse Cow says:

    It's ALIVE?!! She's an over engineered Shake-n-Bake Toro-nado. Lost some weight and she won't ever be late, to another lawnmower convention.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars PedroVision says:

    Who else suspected this video was coming…raise your hands….yeah, that's what I thought…WE ALL DID!!!!!! LOL!!!!

    Way to go Mustie…you wayyyyy did not disappoint!! (Greetings from Finnland!!)

    (You can actually feel your testosterone levels rise…)

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars p.c i says:

    Where is your counter balance don’t think that’s going to go 2 well.made vibrating going on and eventually bearings f… up
    No .??? Looking forward to this start up …best of luck with it for the future 🤞🤔

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars shaun huckabee says:

    I love the use of your Harbor Freight pack of 5 for $1.99 picks as a pointer in the beginning of the vid! And love the vidjas overall!

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jim White says:

    From riding a mini bike with no brakes to spending the time to get a junk motor to run, you ain't skeered to have fun , I'll give you that!

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Scott Chaisson says:

    If you're really feeling froggy, you could even pull the piston, rod and crank, and weld enough material on the crank to balance it all out.
    Then you only rally have to come up with some sort of throttle. LOL Make it a Race Cutter…

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DAVID WATSON says:

    mcguiver would be proud of you!!! He would have bent a little more pitch in the blade, fastened the engine to a device that would fly himself out of wherever he was stranded. Awesome vidio. You never give up.
    I have learned a lot about how a carbueator functions in your videos. You explain very well. Good teacher.
    Thanks David

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